Talk:Little Tich

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The Big Boot Film[edit]

I've changed this because the IMDb entry on which it relied is not substantiated by any other sources. It is clear that there is only one extant film of this dance (which was shows on TV's QI program this evening, and that is directed by Clément-Maurice, and this is the one to which Tati referred. The quote attributed to him was also inaccurate. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 01:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and Clement-Maurice died in 1933 so it is now more than 70 years after his death, hence I've left the link to the YouTube video in. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 18:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -- Cassianto ^Talk 00:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Link to the video doesn't work anymore. Maybe someone knows another appropriate URL to fix that? FoundSomething (talk) 20:00, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as this video appears in the body, I saw no purpose in keeping the external link. Now deleted. Cassianto ^Talk 21:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The film does not play on my phone - could you restore/provide the link? Thanks. Marty Mangold (talk) 00:16, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mcmangold, odd, it plays on mine. here it is. Enjoy. Cassianto^Talk 10:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect origin of "Tich" given[edit]

"Anyone small in stature at that time earned the nickname of "Tich" (referring to the claimant in the Tichborne Case), . . ."

Dead wrong. The Tichborne Claimant, Arthur Orton, was not at all short in stature, but was notably corpulent (as can readily be seen in the linked Wikipedia article; at the time of the trial he weighed 28 stones), and the nickname 'Tichborne' or 'Tich' was initially applied to those who were similarly fat. As a child performer Harry Relph was also "unusually stout for his age", and this combined with his youth and short stature led to his being called "Little Tich" (by way of earlier nicknames "Young Tichborne the Second" and "Young Tichborne"), which he later adopted as a stage name.

In due course Orton faded from public consciousness while Relph, billed as Little Tich, grew both slimmer and (much) more famous. Since he was no longer chubby, but of course was still small, the "Tich" epithet (and the associated adjective "tichy") lost its original meaning (due to Orton) and acquired its still-current one (due to Relph).

This is all detailed on pp 23-24 of Little Tich: Giant of the Music Hall by Mary Tich (Relph's daughter) and Richard Findlater (Elm Tree Books, London 1979), already listed in the 'References' Section, a copy of which I have. (I also live near Tichborne and recently saw an excellent touring museum exhibition about the Case, so I was doubly struck by the inaccuracy.)

I want to learn more about the workings of Wikipedia before I create an account, and until I do I'm reluctant to do any article editing (though I know I could). When I'm up and running, I may use the book to expand the article a little. In the meantime, someone with more confidence might want to amend the inaccuracy. Incidentally, I notice a citation tag on Relph's polydactylity: this is of course amply confirmed in Tich & Findlater, being first mentioned on pp 10-11. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 05:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This has been done. -- Cassianto ^Talk 00:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Le Raid Paris–Monte-Carlo en deux heures[edit]

The GA for this film says it was not Little Tich, but a derivative character, Little Pich. Spicemix (talk) 16:47, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Both Relph and Pich were in the film. BFI lists Tich, IMDB lists both. I'd trust those (and the listed source here) over the omission in a GA. - SchroCat (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And anyway, this is a Featured Article, which while not-being infallible, has been peer reviewed by a number of independent editors which includes a dedicated review of the sources. This is something which singularly failed to occur in the film's GA review, which comprises about seventy (!!!) words total. I don't think they compare; I certainly don't see that GA review as raising any particular uncertainty to the level required for tagging an FA. Cheers! ——Serial 17:04, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minor edit suggestion(s)[edit]

1. I would like to have the following (in the first paragraph beneath the image) changed from “Little Tich began performing aged ten“ to “Little Tich began performing at the age of ten”. I’m not sure the reason for the former’s use, whereas the latter edited version sounds less clunky. It may be a matter of aesthetics, so this is why it is a minor edit suggestion. X0bN14Rb (talk) 18:38, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clunky or succinct? Why use 9 words when you can use 6? They mean the same thing and the meaning is not lost. What do others think? Cassianto^Talk 20:57, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2. How do you pronounce "Tich"? Tick? Titche? I am American and I don't think this is a word over here. 2600:6C56:7C08:691:A101:4554:E6EB:4B3E (talk) 23:34, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You pronounce it "titch". Cassianto^Talk 02:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be superfluous to note pronunciation in the article? (Otherwise, I'm not sure there's any reason this falls under "Minor edit suggestion(s)".) ;) X0bN14Rb (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

E. W. Mackney[edit]

I've started a brief article on E. W. Mackney, on whom Little Tich based his name "The Infant Mackney". In none of the sources I've seen is it suggested that he was a clog dancer from Morpeth, as this article suggests - rather, that he was born in London, as supported by census records. Can any light be shed on this inconsistency? Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:52, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sanford and Lyons[edit]

Reaching out to those with experience with editing, approving articles relating to Music Hall artists and history for the following draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sanford_and_Lyons

Thankyou so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victoriana2022 (talk • contribs) 03:33, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]