Talk:Local Government in Egypt

Map Problem

The primary focus of this article are the governorates of Egypt. While the map you are pushing is a decent quality, there are several problems with it. First, you are attempting to push the map to a size that is way too big for the article and too foreboding to the article content, and Second, you are also pushing a map that does not define the governorates of Egypt (rather, only the capital cities of Egypt). This map would be more suited for a capital cities of Egypt article or article on Egyptian cities. So please understand - your approach is good, however, you have chosen an improper map for this article. The numbered map corresponds to two things - the fact that it IS a map of the Egyptian governorates and the fact that the numbers correspond to the numbers listed in the wiki table below the map, with a list of the governorates and corresponding information. Do you understand this now? Rarelibra 14:44, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I am subsequently removing the map from this article and placing it on the List of Egyptian cities and List of cities in Egypt articles, where it is more applicable. Rarelibra 14:51, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Please see your talk page. You clearly do not understand the reasons for my modifications. Do you understand this now? --Lanternix 16:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

My response on your talk page. Maybe you will understand more now. Rarelibra 17:22, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

The problem is not with me understanding. I hope YOU understand more now. --Lanternix 17:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Whatever. Rarelibra 18:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow! Excellent argument! --Lanternix 18:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

If it is an "argument" you are looking for, look in the mirror. By stating such, you are obviously negative (or closed) minded and only approach this as a "win-lose" or "argument". I thought this WAS a discussion about the article. Oh well. Rarelibra 18:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

It certainly WAS, until you began screaming right and left, and saying things then contradicting yourself, just because being the last person who makes a change in the page makes you feel better about yourself. I can't care less for the size of the map, but any change that restores my points of objection, which I have listed on your talk page, will be reverted. --Lanternix 18:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Be careful with your words, you are borderline on personal attacks - and I will have you blocked if you continue such. If you continue to mess with the article and make incoherent changes, I will continue to change it back to what are correct edits. If you look carefully in the history, you were the one confused - introducing an incorrect map, then increasing the size, attempting to remove the other map which was correct (whether you made it or not) and then moving it all around the article in very incorrect locations. You started the personal attacks - cease now before it gets serious for you. Rarelibra 18:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Please go ahead. Your many threats and insults will be certainly included in the case. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. A respectful discussion generates a similar one, but don't expect less than insults once you insult another person. As for the confusion, it was all yours, and it was indeed you who were moving things around in a random manner. --Lanternix 18:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

By the way, it's kind of funny how scared you are by what I write on your talk page. You remove it right away. I'm curious as to why you begin an agressive and rude discussion if you cannot continue it to the end?! --Lanternix 18:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I enjoy your juvenile accusations. Scared? I'm afraid not much scares me, boy. I think you probably don't understand what fear is - I doubt you've ever seen combat. My conversation was started to correct you incessive actions. Period. Now grow up and stop your attempts at sabre-rattling. Rarelibra 18:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Too bad you didn't learn much from combat. Regardless what your conversation was aimed at, it was and continues to be rude and impolite. I may "grow up" per your words once I feel I am talking to a grown-up, not a kid. --Lanternix 19:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you feel so inept and have such a low self-esteem as to continue to attempt to offer up accusations and insults. It reflects as to the type of person you are, really. Too bad. Just stop playing with the image size. Rarelibra 20:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, what's wrong with you and that image size? I can't care less. Why does this keep haunting you? Relax dude, I will change what I want to change when I want to change it. I don't take orders from you, so you can save yourself the efforts of telling me what to do and what not to do. --Lanternix 04:01, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

You will listen to an admin when you get reported for your continued nuisance. Rarelibra 11:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Try, and only blame yourself when the admin bans you. --Lanternix 14:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Guys, you both have violated 3RR. I am not going to block anyone because it won't solve your dispute but i hope you stop edit warring for a while until you reach a consensus. As per my say re this edit warring, i'd say it is WP:LAME. -- FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 16:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the latest edit by FayssalF, since it keeps the map above the table, thus preventing the table from being squeezed between the map and the Politics of Egypt column. The latest edit also avoids having way too much empty blank space within the article. Any map size is fine by me, as long as the above two things are avoided. Thanks. --Lanternix 17:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

This setting is fine (though I have a feeling only because it was not from me)... Lanternix, please just keep in mind that many wiki users may not have the resolution you have - and this must be taken into consideration when setting map size. Not that I'm an expert, though I know a thing or two about maps, resolution, etc. Thanks for throwing in the white flag. Now let's you and I both get back to positive contributions. Rarelibra 17:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding Rarelibra. I agree with the latest change because it makes sense and avoids the problems I talked about, and NOT because it came from someone other than you. Conecrning screen resolutions, I already mentioned to you that I have 3 different computers with 3 different resolutions, and the previous problem persisted with all three of them. Looking forward to dealing with you in more positive situations, and I apologize concerning the last couple of days. --Lanternix 18:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys for your understandings. I should also tahnk you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Happy editing. -- FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 05:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Cairo area

There is an inconsistency between the map and the table. In the table Cairo Governorate has an area of 214 sq.km but on the map it seems bigger than Qalyubia (1001 sq.km). --Nk 08:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Cairo official site claimes 3435.3 square kilometers [1] Bogomolov.PL 13:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Aswan also seems to be too small... --Nk 13:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I've asked this on the page for Cairo, but how is it that ther eis both a listing for 453 km2 and 214 km2? I've seen both numbers given interchangeably and have no idea as to why or which is the real one. I know that some areas were broken off in 2008, 453 km2 has always been the most printed number. This seems like something that'd be very easy to find out. --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

New Governorates in Egypt

As announced in today's Egyptian newspapers (18 April 2008), the boundaries of some governorates have just been modified, and both Cairo and Giza governorates have been split to create two new (additional) governorates, called "6 October" and "Helwan".

This article should be updated accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.57.191.19 (talk) 17:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you find an english-language source for this? Also, was the split merely announced, or did it take place? --Golbez (talk) 18:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Found a source, though it doesn't specify if the split was just announced or has already taken place. --Golbez (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Please note an error in the populations (2006 Census) which you quote for the new governorates in this article. The population you quote for Helwan governorate (Muhafazat al Hulwan) - 643,327 - is actually the population only of the city of Helwan (Kism Hulwan), whereas in fact the new governorate also includes a number of other cities/districts, as reported in the Press articles cited. Rif Winfield (talk) 14:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Disputed territories

The two maps treat the Sudan border completely diferently: The top one has the non-straight border and the bottom one has the straight border. Could one be settled on and the other altered to match? 76.117.247.55 (talk) 20:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Area mistake

The Areas don't make sense. Giza, for instance, is not bigger than the whole Sinai Peninsula. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naru12333 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

The cancellation of 6 October and Helwan governorates

Now the number of governorates of Egypt is 27 not 29 after the 6 October and Helwan governorates are incorporated into Giza and Cairo respectively... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eng kika (talk • contribs) 17:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I guess the 2 governorates have een removed, but their population has been removed too, should have been added to the original 2 governorates....Helwan to Cairo and 6 October to Giza... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phevos87 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

--I removed them but don't changed the population ...but i agree with u :) ..I'll changed them now --Eng.kika 01:09, 28 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eng kika (talk • contribs)

---Done!! Eng.kika 01:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eng kika (talk • contribs)

No numbers on map

In the list of governorates, each one has a number, but the map does not show the numbers and thus there is no way to locate the areas without another source. --68.35.198.237 (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Updated .svg with new .svg including numbers. Thfc (talk) 18:16, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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3 new governorates

According to [Statoids] 3 new governorates were created on 17th August 2014. And map from Al-Ahram with new administrative division of Egypr: [2]. Should they be added to the list? Any official confirmation? Aotearoa (talk) 09:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

No governorates were created yet. That was only an announcement by Minister of State for Local Development Adel Labib, He was just reviewing the second phase of re-demarcation of the governorates' borders. There will be changes within most of the governorates borders and others will be created, I guess we should wait for the final announcement or maybe when Sisi issues the presidential decree. Sinai Horus ^〉〉〉 10:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you're right – according to this article Sisi has only announced the creation of new governorates. Aotearoa (talk) 10:19, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Outdated map

File:محافظات مصر-3.png seems to be the updated one, and it is more consistent with the area data shown on Britannica Book of the Year 2013, p.589. --Mewaqua (talk) 06:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Copts

Which Governorates of Egypt have high percent of copts?--Kaiyr (talk) 15:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

The census has not released religious identification data since 1986 Ypedia1 (talk) 00:44, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

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I like this content for this section. It's a history of decentralization of power. It was deleted. I think it's applicable. Revision Level C (talk) 03:21, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

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