Talk:London Has Fallen
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Filming
[edit]@Obi-WanKenobi-2005: @BattleshipMan: @Favre1fan93: It might be the wrong information about filming, because lead actor Gerard Butler is currently in New Orleans shooting Geostorm began just 5 days ago. And after Geostorm, he'd start filming London Has Fallen. It is Instagram, we can't put it in the article as a reliable source. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 01:26, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Captain Assassin!: It is stated that some of the filming will have scenes with Eckhart, Freeman and others involved. Then it will be on break and Butler will start filming his scenes on London Has Fallen. BattleshipMan (talk) 01:35, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Oh yeah yeah, I've read that here. I forgot that, sorry. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 02:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
"Moved" vs. "pushed"
[edit]I see we're verging on an edit war over these two words in relation to the release date for this film. I don't have a dog in this fight, but maybe we ought to hash it out here rather than continually reverting each other. Personally I think either is fine. -Starke Hathaway (talk) 12:06, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Cast bulletin list on that movie
[edit]Everyone look at this link here about the poster's bulletin list. It's hard to read, but if you have a desktop computer and look carefully in the bulletin, I think I see the names Jackie Earle Haley, Sean O'Bryan and Waleed Zuaiter on the bulletin list below. BattleshipMan (talk) 02:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Who are these critics?
[edit]168 and 35 UNELECTED members of the public panned the film which did hugely well at the box office (over $205 million). Does anyone care what these nobodies think since they seem to be out of touch with everyone else? Time to dump rotten tomatoes and other luvvy groups of nobodies from Wikipedia. And who the hell is Russian brat, Ignatiy Vishnevetsky that anyone should give a damn about him? As to lefties complaining about it exploiting terror, people want to see terrorists get their just desserts as that so often does not happen in real life, even if they are caught.(61.90.110.166 (talk) 15:39, 24 January 2017 (UTC))
The actual rank of "Chief Hazard"
[edit]The character played by Colin Salmon is listed in the credits as "Chief Hazard" and is wearing a Commissioner's uniform throughout the movie. He appears to be addressed in one piece of dialogue as "Chief Inspector" which is most likely a mistake in the script, or possibly intended to refer to the non-uniformed person standing to his right (who speaks the next line). In any case it was clearly not the intention for Hazard to be a Chief Inspector so I have changed the reference to the character in this article from "Chief Inspector Kevin Hazard" to "police chief Kevin Hazard".Eggybacon (talk) 09:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Later in the film, after The President is taken, he identifies himself over the radio as "Chief Inspector Hazzard", I have just watched this scene on telly.Clock Number 302 (talk) 21:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
What controversy?
[edit]A controversy implies that there are diverging opinions. This section depends on a single article from the Independent, whose author has cherry-picked the worst critical quotations he can find and then stacked them end to end. That's not a controversy, that's the Independent's critic doing a hatchet job, and covering his ass (providing "balance") with a couple of quotations from Butler, the star and producer. This section should be deleted because it's basically opinion masquerading as a report. Theonemacduff (talk) 08:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Critical reception summary in the lead
[edit]@BattleshipMan: What is POV about my summary? I admit, my prose is a little choppy and needs work, breaking into critical reception straight after the positiveness of the big box office gross, but I don't see anything that wasn't in Critical response & Controversy sections. 25% RT and 28/100 MC certainly sounds panned to me, and the things I picked out, while negative, are not the most negative things mentioned there. I also skipped the A- CinemaScore not to veer to far into the positives either. Per WP:LEAD, the lead should summarise the body, and this is what I'm trying to do. What did I do wrong? Daß Wölf 23:56, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Daß Wölf: The prose was choppy like you said and the links for it is not necessary for the lede, which wasn't all that neutral for that part of the article. I'm good with the critical reception of it on the lede, like many of the film articles, and I would recommend putting those sources of those reviews you posted in the lede in the Critical reception & Controversy sections. BattleshipMan (talk) 00:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean here by "neutral for that part of the article". Do you mean to say that criticism of the article subject should be excluded from the lead? Re: sources of the reviews, I didn't add any reviews, I simply re-iterated existing parts of Critical reception & Controversy sections. To me, it feels POV and not giving due weight to have two whole sections of the article not covered by a single word in the lead. Daß Wölf 01:04, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Look at lede part of Death Wish (2018 film). I think you'll see what I mean. BattleshipMan (talk) 01:12, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- That's a pretty uneven summary as well IMO. Daß Wölf 01:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Look, I know that critical reception in movies should be in the lede part of the film articles, positive or negative. We just need to make it more concise and avoid some issues with consistency. BattleshipMan (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- How about: "Filming began in London on October 24, 2014. A Christmas break started in November with filming resuming in February 2015. The film was released by Focus Features under their recently revived Gramercy Pictures label on March 4, 2016, and grossed $205 million worldwide. However, the critical reception was negative, with Variety accusing it of fear-mongering and "terrorsploitation" while The A.V. Club named it worst film of the year." Daß Wölf 01:59, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- It's possible it could work. Might add "generally negative" on it. BattleshipMan (talk) 03:03, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- OK, I've added it to the article. Daß Wölf 03:51, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- It's possible it could work. Might add "generally negative" on it. BattleshipMan (talk) 03:03, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- How about: "Filming began in London on October 24, 2014. A Christmas break started in November with filming resuming in February 2015. The film was released by Focus Features under their recently revived Gramercy Pictures label on March 4, 2016, and grossed $205 million worldwide. However, the critical reception was negative, with Variety accusing it of fear-mongering and "terrorsploitation" while The A.V. Club named it worst film of the year." Daß Wölf 01:59, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Look, I know that critical reception in movies should be in the lede part of the film articles, positive or negative. We just need to make it more concise and avoid some issues with consistency. BattleshipMan (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- That's a pretty uneven summary as well IMO. Daß Wölf 01:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Look at lede part of Death Wish (2018 film). I think you'll see what I mean. BattleshipMan (talk) 01:12, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean here by "neutral for that part of the article". Do you mean to say that criticism of the article subject should be excluded from the lead? Re: sources of the reviews, I didn't add any reviews, I simply re-iterated existing parts of Critical reception & Controversy sections. To me, it feels POV and not giving due weight to have two whole sections of the article not covered by a single word in the lead. Daß Wölf 01:04, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Edit warring
[edit]@Snake0124 and Wallyfromdilbert: A request to protect the article due to edit warring was made at WP:RFPP. I will decline that request but urge you both to discuss the matter here with no further back-and-forth reverts. That will avoid the need for sanctions. Johnuniq (talk) 06:02, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
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