Talk:Loyalty oath
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What is needed
[edit]This article needed some organizational work, which I've just done, but it still needs considerable amplification and expansion. There are other periods in American history, for example, when loyalty oaths were an issue. And, presumably, this is an issue of concern in other countries, too.
The last paragraph about the rumor is unclear. Did the Bush loyalty oath exist or not? If it did, the paragraph should be removed.
- Yeah, I think it did exist [1]; I don't know if it's really a "loyalty oath" under the Truman def though, and I don't know if it really belongs. Keeping it in for now, I guess. If you search for the terms bush loyalty oath rally on Google, you get some old news reports as well. -- Jjjsixsix (t)/(c) @ 04:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- I removed it. The only sources on that were leftist websites such as Slate. If CBS, ABC, CNN, et al, know of it, they would have jumped all over it. 69.58.248.102 09:59, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- The "Mainstream Press" as we tend to call it generally ignored it just as they ignored (or gave low-key reporting) of several curiosities of the Bush Administration activities. Frankly, I'm not surprised by the lack of sources. Sweetfreek 04:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- What it needs is clear amplification of its heavy tendentiousness right on the front page. Sometimes you note that an article is incomplete, lacks references etc., but you should be ashamed to have such an article so clearly politically biased! There is doubt about much of wiki work in the general area of political reporting/history and this kind of article is the reason. For one, there is either no need for such a heading, since your first paragraph tries to distinguish loyalty oaths from loyalty statements, but the context re-conflates. Moreover, all three of the references to the heading Republican (2,3,4) were themselves misleading (2, less so, by acknowledging a legitimate purpose) in that the statements were NOT loyalty or even fealty oaths at all. I'm not signed in...I don't join much...but I have told you who I am below and now tell you I do not have high regard for a process that can have so much obvious bilge floating around as clean water. This is junk history, like anthropogenic global warming and creationism are junk science.
173.54.37.103 (talk) 03:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Supreme Court rulings on loyalty oaths
[edit]- The U.S Supreme Court has both upheld the use of loyalty oaths and overturned lower court decisions upholding loyalty oaths.
The above sentance in the article is vague and seems contradictory. It should be fleshed out so as to better explain when it ruled in favor of loyalty oaths and when it has not. Also, it should explain the current stance of the court as to when such oaths are acceptable and when their not. --Cab88 10:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Other countries through out world history.
[edit]I wanted to know about "loyalty oaths" in Nazi Germany. For that matter, loyalty oaths all around the world, in various stages of world history. This needs to be expanded. I'm sure the topic of "loyalty oaths" will expand, as Wikipedia does tend to accumulate knowledge at a rapid clip. Experts are not shy about contributing to knowledge in their field of study to Wikipedia. 69.120.95.229 (talk) 01:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Peter Romersa, Stamford, CT, United States —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.95.229 (talk) 00:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that this article could indeed be expanded. Please do so, with reliably sourcesd references. 75.101.104.17 (talk) 04:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Harry Byrd, Jr.
[edit]There's material in the article about Sen. Harry Byrd, Jr. that he left the Democratic Party (though he continued to caucus with them) because he would not sign a loyalty oath to the party. It doesn't seem to be sourced to anything, though. Is there any more information about that?216.59.120.66 (talk) 18:20, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
The above was my comment. Just a note that when I said "the article" I meant the Wikipedia article about Sen. Byrd, and not this article.Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- There is similar language in the article about Congressman Floyd Spence of South Carolina, who switched to the Republicans.Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 00:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Democratic Party
[edit]Why no information about loyalty oaths in the Democratic Party? There is information elsewhere on the Internet that this was an issue in Florida and Texas. By not including such information you give credence to those who view Wikipedia as politically biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.104.9 (talk) 22:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
University of California
[edit]I started a short section on the University of California Loyalty Oath conflict of 1950. I realize that the Levering Act already has a page of its own. This is merely a summary in an article filled with such summaries. I included the names of a few notable faculty members (i.e. those with Wikipedia pages) who either resigned or were fired as a result of the situation. I will probably find more and add them, with references, but for now, please understand that the 1950 events at UC were partially notable because of the notability of those who opposed and were caught up in the legal struggle surrounding the Loyalty Oath. Thanks. 75.101.104.17 (talk) 04:52, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
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