Talk:Lucretia Jans

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"the woman were used as sexual comfort devices" - what an an odd wording. If sexual slavery was the case then perhaps it should be worded more clearly. In the meantime I'm going to remove "devices" at least 121.44.29.14 (talk) 15:18, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edits 15.04.2012[edit]

This article portrayed Lucretia Jans as the likely leader of the Batavia mutiny. The quoted reference material does not support this allegation, nor can I find any material that would support this claim. I have revised the article to indicate more accurately that she was afterwards accused of complicity with the mutineers. I have also corrected the description of the Batavia's foundering on reefs, and whilst at it, more clearly stated that the women were indeed sex slaves. Siamrat (talk) 12:03, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mutiny?[edit]

"the crew mutinied under the leadership of Jeronimus Cornelisz" - technically, what happened cannot be called mutiny, as all officers had left the island, leaving no authority against which to mutine. In fact, although neither sailor nor soldier, Jeronimus Cornelisz himself was the most senior Dutch East India Company official left behind. According to the story, Cornelisz had been plotting with the skipper to mutine during the ship's voyage, but this plot was thwarted by the shipwreck. It should be kept in mind that we have only one source for this, commander Pelsaert, who may have been motivated to cover up his own negligence in the whole affair. The Dutch East India Company certainly concluded he had been incompetent.178.85.167.122 (talk) 02:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]