Talk:Lughaya District

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Kabri Bahr[edit]

@MustafaO: In your edit, you wrote "place in the Lughaya coastal plains all the way to Kabri Bahr" but your source says "a fight took place at Kabri Bahr". Kabri Bahr is in the Baki district, is it not? Freetrashbox (talk) 00:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Freetrashbox

Ever since Somaliland has reclaimed it's independence there has been some issues surrounding district boundaries. It certainly used to be part of the old Baki district during the Somalia era. However ever since Somaliland reclaimed independence it's principle town Garbodadar has voted under the Lughaya District. I'll try and verify.

MustafaO (talk) 00:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to this, the town if Garbodadar is under the Lughaya District and it is the biggest town in the Kabr Bahr Valley, this is the officialFacebook account of the Somaliland National Electorate Commission:

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If you scroll down to the 2021 polling stations for the local elections for the Lughaya district it shows Garbodadar as part of the district.

MustafaO (talk) 00:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Freetrashbox

If you feel it is not a legitimate source we can remove it. I'm genuinely under the impression that it is. Let me know your thoughts.

MustafaO (talk) 01:01, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The geography of Somaliland is easily disputed. Therefore, a careful explanation is desirable; I have confirmed that Garbodadar is Lughaya's constituency (source), but an explanation that Garbodadar and Kabri Bahr are in the same or nearby area is needed. Freetrashbox (talk) 01:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Freetrashbox These are news reports although the sources aren't outright Wiki style sources, they point to a geographical reality that Kabri Bahr comes under the grade D Garbodadar sub district:

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What do you think? Should we keep the content or remove it?

MustafaO (talk) 01:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Voting station in Lughaya(red) and Baki(blue) in 2017.

The source of the Somaliland 2017 election polling stations above is shown in the figure. The Lughaya electoral district is shown in red. This is quite different from the "district divisions" used in the current English Wikipedia. Examples of electoral and administrative districts that differ can be found in the United Kingdom and other countries. Is there any evidence that in Somaliland, electoral and administrative districts coincide? Freetrashbox (talk) 07:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Freetrashbox

Yes, this source [5] sponsored by the UN, Somaliland government and UK shows that Garbodadar is still part of the Lughaya district as an administrative district if you look at the Awdal Region.

During elections only districts graded A - C vote, so the electoral districts never include grade D districts as they've not yet been approved by the Somaliland parliament. According to Somaliland governance laws, grade D districts have a very small and limited level of autonomy outside of their respective parent districts. Garbodadar is a grade D district and is still very much dependent on the budget that is allocated to the Lughaya local government but it has it's own local authority incuding a mayor who is selected by the Interior Ministry as is the case for all grade D districts.

MustafaO (talk) 07:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your information is not enough to say that the constituencies and administrative districts in Somaliland are the same. However, I do not see any contradiction in your opinion, so if there are no objections from others, let's make use of your current description. Freetrashbox (talk) 12:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Population of the District[edit]

The source for the population of Lughaya does not say the population nor corresponds to anything within Somaliland or Awdal. Binglebarry (talk) 22:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the report. This number was rewritten without source in this edit, and someone then rewrote to the non-existent URL. I fixed them. Freetrashbox (talk) 01:57, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This source seems to be very old. I don't think it's a proper fit because we are in 2024. Please find a less outdated source. Binglebarry (talk) 02:43, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you that the source is outdated. I have tried to find them, but have not found that I would consider reliable. Freetrashbox (talk) 02:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]