Talk:Lusius Quietus
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Lusius Race?
[edit]I have found one article online and another in a history book where he is 'black' black - In fact on Livius.org it states that he was one of the few 'black' Romans to have made a career in the Roman service. - Now obviously a historian would not make a mistake with Berbers since at least on or two Emperors were North Africans yet they are never referred to as "Black" I suggest that either someone find some references to support that Lusius was "Berber" or else use the reference from an actual Historian that claims that he was Black.
Afrocentrist sites cannot be considered as a valuable source
- Most sources consider Lusius Quietus as a Berber Moor from the Mauretania Tingitana (modern-day Morocco). He descended from a princely Berber Moorish family. It is not far fetched that his mother was of "Ethiopian" descent, and therefore his skin tone was darker than the average Berber, but that wouldn't make him less of a Berber, and calling him a "Black Roman" is quite misleading I believe. Furthermore, Berbers of the Sahara tend to have darker skin than Berbers of the Mediterranean coast, so if his family is originally from the south, that could explain the references to his "dark skin". Some sources (all from Google Books) and there are many more of them:
- Neutestamentliche Zeitgeschichte: ¬Das nachapostolische Zeitalter, Volume 4, page 183
- Untersuchungen zu den Dakerkriegen Trajans: Studien zur Geschichte des mittleren und unteren Donauraumes in der Hohen Kaiserzeit, page 151
- The Fair Race's Darkest Hour, by C. T. (Editor), page 77
- The Untold History of the Roman Emperors, by Michael Kerrigan, page 145
- Ideophagous 12:08, 06 May 2020 (UTC)
Book of Judith
[edit]Could someone explain how this campaign could be described in the book of Judith? Paul B 16:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Wisdom of Roman meritocracy
[edit]The article states: "Lusius was clearly an exceptional general, and although it seems unlikely that he would have made a better ruler than Hadrian, the wisdom of the Roman meritocracy is abundantly clear."
But far from being abundantly clear, I fail to comprehend where the wisdom of Roman meritocracy lay in this case. Perhaps someone could enlighten me ?
Joe Gatt 10:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Date of death
[edit]The article states that Quietus was executed by Hadrian in AD 118 but other articles name him as the Procurator of Judea from AD 118-120. Is there any sourcing for the correct day of death and under what circumstances? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:4300:2B77:ED55:66DB:693B:BD56 (talk) 18:34, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Christianity
[edit]The categories claim he was Christian. Is there a source for this? One would think that a major Roman commander being Christian in the early 2nd century would be of major historical note... AbbotOfLeibowitz (talk) 20:28, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Removed - no source for this claim.50.111.44.55 (talk) 16:20, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
no mention of the plot ...
[edit]Many ancient sources point to a plot of four former Trajan generals against Hadrian - this is not mentioned, only that Hadrian was somehow jealous of Quitus' fame in the military. 50.111.44.55 (talk) 16:20, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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