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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk22:25, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Mooonswimmer (talk). Nominated by Bookku (talk) at 05:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC).[reply]

"Tone. where are the removed statements in the sources?"

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@Urve

I commend you for your attentiveness.

Within the college premises, a mob of fellow students stoned Yakubu and beat her with planks before dumping tires on her and setting them on fire. Her body was burnt beyond recognition. A witness said her last words were "What do you hope to achieve with this?", among her pleas for mercy.

I've fixed addressed the sourcing issues for "before dumping tires on her and setting them on fire", "body was burnt beyond recognition", and I've replaced "planks" with sticks, as per most of the sources.

"Among her pleas for mercy". Was this removed because of a problem with tone? Mooonswimmer 10:20, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yes, pleas for mercy are about tone. I think we need to consider whether words like lynching and murder are appropriately neutral, and don't say that living people are guilty of a crime they haven't been convicted of. Urve (talk) 11:07, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Urve for pushing on this. I hadn't seen WP:DEATHS so wasn't aware of that flowchart. I didn't see a problem with "Lynching" because the event described meets the definition of lynching, but according to that guideline, "Killing" is the appropriate word. MartinPoulter (talk) 09:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is going on the main page soon and still has this title. With a hook that is just a witness statement. Cool cool. Urve (talk) 12:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding this, no. It is not in the source's own voice; it is what a witness said, which they then reported, with attribution. See my edit which adds failed verification tags with reasoning. To elaborate on the "is that balanced" question, what makes a very short essay, without an author, more reliable and definitive than Al Jazeera? Al Jazeera uses other sources to make its point. If sources disagree on the frequency - as here - then why can we say that it "frequently" happens? Urve (talk) 12:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 06:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]