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A news item involving MV St. Thomas Aquinas was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 17 August 2013.

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Correct name?

Just what is it? M/V St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Thomas Aquinas or St. Thomas of Aquinas? Unfortunately 2GO Travel uses all three versions at different places on its website [[1]]

ABS, her class society, has M/V St. Thomas Aquinas [[2]], which is what was painted on the bows [[3]].

Equasis, sourcing from IHS/Fairplay, has St. Thomas of Aquinas (odd one as the place he came from was Aquino).

No wonder the media are confused. Davidships (talk) 15:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

St. Thomas Aquinas was the name the ship actually carried. Mjroots (talk) 18:02, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not in the cited photo dated 22/10/2012 or this one released 2013 by the operators [[4]], [[5]] or [[6]].

Some jurisdictions (notably the USA) permit "M/V" and similar to be registered as part of the official name, in which case they are no longer a prefix. There are 188 vessels on the current US register that begin "M/V", and a good number with "MV". It would seem that the Philippine maritime authorities have a similar policy. Davidships (talk) 01:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the newspaper articles seem to use "M/V" so maybe that is the WP:Commonname. However, most of the Wikipedia article titles on ships seem to prefer no "/" in my limited perusal, which would make the titles cleaner. Since "MV" seems to be the Wikipedia practice, I see no reason to change it. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 11:12, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

M/V is deprecated for a techmical reasom - it makes the page a sub-page of M. Re ship's name, see the World Maritime News reference for confirmation. Mjroots (talk) 17:06, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, it's not surprising the media is in a mess. The WMN reference shows the stern, which introduces yet another variant MV St. Thomas Aquinas, but then the journalist fails to copy it and misses out the "St." altogether! Thank goodness there's a technical WP reason to eliminate at least one of the possibilities, though it seems that, according to the Philippine Maritime Authority, the official name is indeed St. Thomas Aquinas [7]. Davidships (talk) 00:51, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics Update

According to the SunStar website, the statistics (as of yesterday) is 39 deceased and up to 80 missing. The opening paragraph has different statistics. SunStar story of MV St. Thomas Aquinas. Adamdaley (talk) 11:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Graphics

Am I alone in finding the two graphics almost incomprehensible? Davidships (talk) 18:15, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am puzzled too. Martial54 (talk) 02:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I also found them confusing and unhelpful. A map from above would however be helpful. A graphic depiction of depth is not. There needs to be a comparison or else the numbers themselves are OK. Since there are three negative comments, I've removed them. They can always be put back in if there is a consensus. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 08:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Time

At approximately 21:00 PHT (13:00 UTC), it was heading into the port at Cebu City via the Cebu Strait when it collided with the MV Sulpicio Express Siete (IMO 7724344), a cargo ship owned by the Philippine Span Asia Carrier Corporation that was leaving port, approximately 1.2 miles (1.9 km) from Talisay, Cebu.

I can confirm that the analog clock on the bridge as of this year (2023) reads 9:04:59, nine hours, four minutes, fifty nine seconds. Which is probably when the circuitry died. Hope this helps. 2001:8003:2961:AD00:8CAF:46DA:7A42:D46E (talk) 23:56, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]