Talk:Made man/Archive 1
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Chris Rosenberg is not a made man
The article cites only made man, and Chris Rosenberg was not made man. He just worked with a crew run by a for-real made man (Roy DeMeo). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.84.193.2 (talk) 03:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Vincenzo "The Land Lord" Remone.
'Eyy, Eyy. Im the younger brother of Lorenzo Pascel Remone, I was bread up in Brooklyn and first started work at the age of twenty, I was a soldier under the Bonito Crime Family, I advanced made at the age of twenty four. Yea` those four years was tough, I didnt think becoming made was such a big deal stupidly, Until the ceremony has finished, "De Ella Eccellentisimo, De Ella Eccellentisimo". I was 'Untouchable' {as they say}. Im now underboss inside The Remone Crime Organization, "Stare is Buono".
What is a made man, in Italian? 82.109.222.194 15:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
should refer to Made (2001 film) as well? Mathmo Talk 00:05, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
'Made man' disambiguation?
This article name 'Made man' refers to a lot of things when the term is searched through Wikipedia's search engine. I suggest that a disambiguation page be made with this title, like Man-made (disambiguation). WinterSpw (talk) 19:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Wise guy?
How does wise guy redirect to here? DanMat6288 (talk) 16:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Tasters
(Or whatever they call payments up the ladder) What percentage of his take does a wiseguy have to pass on up to his Capo ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.61.119.100 (talk) 09:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Many sources refer to such payments as "tribute", e.g., in the "Mafia & mafiosi: origin, power and myth - Google Books Result" found here [1] and "Mafia turncoat Michael Finnerty testifies he paid tribute money to mob boss, John A. (Junior) Gotti found here [Mafia turncoat Michael Finnerty testifies he paid tribute money to mob boss, John A. (Junior) Gotti" found here [2].
Made Woman?
Do any mafia crews/families also have made women? There was a Soprano's episode where there was a woman boss in Italy, though I'm not sure they can actually be made there The snare (talk) 07:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
No, only men can become made. In Italy it is common for woman to take over criminal rackets while their husbands are in jail, but they aren't actually members of a crime family. --Ted87 (talk) 00:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Johnny Rocco
I can't find anything that supports this person as anything other than a fictional character. If there's no citations to be found, I suggest all references to this "person" be purged.Dukeofwulf (talk) 15:00, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
If a full history of the ritual can be written, I personally think it could stand on its own. Other opinions? --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 20:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I propose to add the history of the ritual in Sicily where it originated and change the title into Mafia initiation ritual. The sections on choosing members, rules etc. could be moved to a new article Man of honour, which could be merged with Made man. - DonCalo (talk) 10:33, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- So, the gist of that is oppose? I'm a little confused because you seem to reference creating another article to specifically merge into Made man - is "Man of honor" the name of the equivalent article on the Italian WP? --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 19:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Support a merge. There is no need for a separate article. Everything said there should be here since induction is a part of being a made man. --Ted87 (talk) 19:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- I think it ought to be merged. The rituals can be mentioned here. I see no need for a separate article. Joyson Prabhu Holla at me! 19:40, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I think the best way to solve this is to follow the structure of the Sicilian Mafia article:
- 5 Rituals and codes of conduct
- 5.1 Initiation ceremony
- 5.2 Introductions
- 5.3 Etiquette
- 5.4 Ten Commandments
- 5.5 Omertà
The article on Mafia induction ritual would than be a stand-alone one that serves as a main article to be referred to under Initiation ceremony. - DonCalo (talk) 14:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Suggestion
Could someone research then document in the article more about "made man"? Such as how family members of made men experience life and what is regarded as honourable and not honourable by the mafia (or is that just Catholicism?)? There must be more information that can be added to this article to do with a made mafia man. I would like to know everything, as well as others who would like to know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 06:31, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Suggestion
From Raab, New York Times, 1995: "Mr. Martens, in an interview, said Mr. Merlino was mainly supported by previous members of the Bruno and Scarfo families while Mr. Stanfa, in an unusual tactic recruited for his side several men who were not of Italian heritage, including the Veasey brothers."
It has been reported that John Veasey was a made member in the Philadelphia organization and was not of Italian decent. It would be interesting if someone could compile some information on any other individuals, if they exist, who were full members and not Italian, which I thought to be a prerequisite to be made. It would also be interesting to know if individuals changed their names and became made, or individuals whose mother was Italian only, became made (as would most likely not have the Italian surname). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.217.169.236 (talk) 15:47, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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"Books are closed"
- "The books are open" is a phrase used in the Mafia to indicate that a particular Mafia family is ready to accept new members; conversely, if a family is unwilling or unable to accept new members, the "books are closed."
I've heard that before. Refs? I don't suppose anyone has a "wire" on this stuff. It's a little more personal than they let on, almost like "We decided not to hire."
Anyways, University of Alaska Fairbanks, where I graduated, is owned by the Usibelli, Alaska family, who told me "books are closed" and pursue a personal vendetta to this day. B.S. Mathematics and Computer Science. Adjudicated as a mental defective in a court of law. No firearms. No jobs. Ever. They got my own family involved in their crimes just to rub it in my face. justinacolmena (talk) 02:28, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- The only notable site I could really find was [the Telegraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1394814/Short-staffed-Mafia-makes-a-job-offer-you-cant-refuse.html]. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
"Best man" at a wedding, "groomsman" etc.
To quote from the article:
- Other common names for members include man of honor (Italian: uomo d'onore), man of respect (Italian: uomo di rispetto), one of us, friend of ours (Italian: amico nostro) ...
It's wedding soup and it sounds like a wedding we weren't invited to. —justinacolmena (talk) 16:56, 25 March 2021 (UTC)