Talk:Magic minute

A fact from Magic minute appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 January 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the magic minute exposed a "secret" about baby carrots and criticized Jimmy Carter's sweaters?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 15:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Carter in a sweater

... that the magic minute exposed a "secret" about baby carrots and criticized Jimmy Carter's sweaters (pictured)? Source: "His wide-ranging remarks touched on ... 'a little secret' about baby carrots ('They are just big carrots. They chop 'em and they charge you more and you buy them.')." In Kevin McCarthy's 8-hour tirade, a rambling attempt to show he can lead the rancorous Republicans and "But he also had veered into somewhat unrelated topics ... how President Jimmy Carter’s penchant for wearing sweaters influenced him to become a Republican" McCarthy's overnight speech – longest in modern history – underscores rancor in the House
- ALT1: ... that a magic minute can take over eight hours? Source: "She used her unlimited, 'magic' minute, available in the House to only to party leaders, to speak for more than eight hours, reading story after emotional story about DREAMers who aspire to become U.S. citizens." Nancy Pelosi told DREAMer stories for more than 8 hours on the House floor
- ALT2: ... that the magic minute was used to boast about a friendship with Elon Musk? Source: "His wide-ranging remarks touched on his upbringing in a Democratic household, his friendship with tech billionaire Elon Musk" In Kevin McCarthy's 8-hour tirade, a rambling attempt to show he can lead the rancorous Republicans
- Comment: Maybe the strangest DYK nomination I've made. While the credit tool will tell you I have five credits, I was incorrectly credited with one of them – I have four. Strong preference for ALT0 over the others.

Moved to mainspace by Sdrqaz (talk). Self-nominated at 17:46, 2 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Comment No relation to this magic moment (I hope)... Joofjoof (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:38, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Review underway Bruxton (talk) 15:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the lead needs more of an introduction. The introduction does not properly introduce the substance of the article. I added a few sentences and a reference and changed the first section to background - the heading, "custom" may be ok, but I have not seen it used before. I think most people will not know about parliamentary rules and so we need to do more to introduce the article. I think the article is interesting and I like the specifics about for instance "baby carrots" and "Nancy's high heels".
The article was created January 1st, so it is new enough. It is long enough with 2400+ characters. The article is referenced and uses proper inline citations. There is a good use of notes in the article. No copyright violations.
ATL1 is the hook I approve as the most interesting. Ping me if you are able to improve the lead. Bruxton (talk) 16:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I personally don't see the lead as that big an issue, but have lengthened it pursuant to your suggestion. For clarity's sake, are you witholding approval for ALT0? If so, I think that's a shame – it's probably the quirkiest one of the ones I've suggested. Sdrqaz (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issue with ATL0 which is supported by the reference. The ATL that made me want to read the article was ATL1. I prefer the lead as it is now and I thank you for the improvement: it presents an introduction of what the reader can expect to learn. Nice job on the article it is well written - and I found it interesting to learn about one of the quirks of the republic... and perhaps one of the reasons for legislative gridlock in the states. Bruxton (talk) 19:36, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Bruxton, for the quick review and the compliments. Maybe it's just me for the hook choice – now it's up to the promoter. Sdrqaz (talk) 20:58, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 to T:DYK/P3 without image

Neutral point of view?[edit]

Kevin McCarthy is vile and I enjoyed seeing this article make him a clown, but it's not even close to neutral compared to how Pelosi's presented. I came to this article from the main page, so this is probably a popular article right now. Unfortunately I don't know the editing protocol well enough to fix it myself. 129.101.212.141 (talk) 04:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When writing the article, I found a lot more coverage of McCarthy's speech compared to Pelosi's speech, perhaps highlighting how journalists like their stories to get clicks. I couldn't find much on Pelosi's speech but could find many pieces about the anecdotes McCarthy had. If you find more on Pelosi's speech, please add it in. Sdrqaz (talk) 11:39, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]