Talk:Manci Howard, Lady Howard of Effingham

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Thank you, Proteus, for doing this. The original title 'Lady Effingham' was incorrect. Her step-mother-in-law, Madeline, Countess of Effingham, could be addressed as "Lady Effingham", but not the wife of the eldest son of the the Earl of Effingham. She was "Lady Howard of Effingham", to show that she was not the wife of a peer, but the wife of his eldest son, who had the courtesy title of "Lord Howard of Effingham". Thank you, again, Proteus.

But the National Archievs refer to her this way - and how will people find her otherwise[edit]

Please see my latest edits to the disambiguation page

Johnbibby 11:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The (British) National Archives, as you correctly point out, refer to "Lady Howard of Effingham", and sometimes the memos refere to "Lady Howard". The National Archives of Australia refer to "Countess of Effingham - allegations re", which suggests that they were confusing her with Madeline, Countess of Effingham, the second wife of the 5th Earl of Effingham. If you disagree with Proteus, perhaps you should raise your arguments with him. PBC

Date of birth. Her Polish passport stated that she was born in 1908, but she told the Home Office Advisory Committee that this was false: that it was 1912, and that she overstated her age in order to be able to obtain a passport. Apart from the Polish passport, all other official statements and documents refer to 1912 as her age.

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