Talk:Margaery Tyrell

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Should article exist?[edit]

Should this be a whole article? could merge with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire_characters — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.12.166.196 (talk • contribs) 00:46, 8 April 2013‎

I think it should be a new article. Remember, List of A Song of Ice and Fire characters has a {{very long}}-template slapped on top of it. If this character meets the WP:GNG for her own article, I'd say it's an excellent idea to split this article off the main list.—♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 12:32, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Margaery an important character? Is she even a POV character in the series? If Daenerys doesn't get one I don't see how the character of Margaery gets one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.164.8.184 (talk) 18:10, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. She doesn't serve a purpose to the story, aside from being the wife of a deceased King. If anything, Joffrey Baratheon, Brandon Stark, or Jaime Lannister are more fitting to have an article. Coolman1250 (talk) 07:27, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may be looking at this the wrong way. Yes, POV characters and others that have been noted are important within the context of the books and the perhaps the franchise, and characters like Margaery may not seem as important story-wise. But Wikipedia's threshold for having an individual article involves different criteria. Basically, in this case a fictional character article has to be much more than just plot summary, and should assert notability that is supported by external sources. In the last few weeks I have personally expanded Tyrion Lannister, Jon Snow and Eddard Stark from basically all-plot articles waiting to be challenged into fully realized character articles (though not even complete yet). Next I'll probably do Daenerys Targaryen. I've started with these because, as the more popular and notable characters, they have the most coverage in a variety of sources. This means, magazines and books and reputable websites commenting on and analyzing the characters and their story lines, etc. I've started collecting research, and many of the characters we fans think are "important" have a decent amount of info out there that be used to start decent articles. But some don't. And while I think that the Petyr Baelish "article" should be merged back into the character list because it is all plot and there isn't much out there (at least for now) to flesh it out in a real manner, this Margaery Tyrell article is very well sourced and proves that the character, though relatively minor in the books, has still been discussed a lot, especially in light of the TV version's expansion and popularity. Compare Arya Stark and Sansa Stark to the expanded articles I mentioned and you should see what I mean; the Stark sisters deserve their own articles and there is plenty of stuff out there to construct them, but they are not really acceptable in their current form.— TAnthony^Talk 15:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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