Talk:Mark Meechan

DOB

Currently the Coventry Telegraph source says he was 30 as of March 20, 2018, which is what is currently supported by the template:birth based on age as of date. He tweeted his birthday, but did not specify an age, nor birth-year. Without a reliable source, this doesn't belong, and it is better to be imprecise than to make crap up. If he said his birth-year in a video, cite it. If it was a livestream that's somehow not archived somewhere, than it isn't WP:V and isn't usable. Find an actual source. It really is that simple. Grayfell (talk) 02:45, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Are you incapable of maths? If he was X age in a court of law on date Y and his birthday is Z, there is only one way to interpret that. If you think the Coventry Telegraph is unreliable or that Meechan was trolling when he tweeted his birthday, say so. But otherwise, this hardcore resistance seems unorthodox. Your previous argument that it was a privacy issue seems to be out the window. WP:DOB talks about people who do not want to share their birthdate and WP:BLPPRIMARY warns against trying to obtain filings such as vehicle registrations or trial documents, etc, none of which are involved here. It really is simple math. You know as well as I do, Dankula would troll us both and all of Wikipedia if we asked him to state his birthdate in a video. Why do you even suggest this? You seem to not be satisfied unless there is a birth certificate. Well, tell me please. What is the unassailable source for Ryan Reynolds' birthdate? Or Scarlett Johansson? Well, if you couldn't look it up, I'll spoil it for you. For RR, I found none. For SJ it seems to be this. Yes, I know, very compelling. So maybe, just maybe, you should accept the odds of Meechan being born in 1987 to be greater thanm 99%. For example, why do you assume he was born in 87/88? If you trust the sources enough for that much, why not trust the maths. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 03:50, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

So if you know he would troll Wikipedia in a heartbeat, why are we assuming his cringy tweets are reliable at all? I left this in as a compromise, but a tweet where he shows himself theatrically doing a line of coke doesn't entirely seem credible, does it? So perhaps you are a right, and this should be removed until a better source comes along.

This is an ongoing problem across many articles. You should remove unsourced birthdays when you see them, which is what I do. Ryan Reynolds' birthday is sourced to FilmReference.com. That link is blacklisted, so you should remove this info if you cannot find a replacement. If your not interested in doing that, this was just WP:OTHERSTUFF at best, and WP:POINT at worst. As for Johansson, if you think the British Film Institute is unreliable, take it up with WP:RSN, I guess. Grayfell (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

My point is "reliable sources" accept statements about the early life of subjects and this is the basis of this information for Wikipedia. The person in question said it at some point during an interview. Well, what better interview than a tweet? Straight from the subject with no chance of transcription error. Do you really think BFI has seen Scarlett Johansson's birth certificate or even her driver's license? Why would they know better? It makes no sense. Nor does your crusade. Even if Meechan is later proven to be born in in a different year or date, does it hurt Wikipedia's credibility? The data was based on the best available information. You act like a Wikipedia article is incapable of improving when better sources come to light. --SVTCobra (talk) 05:56, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

@SVTCobra: we often don't accept direct primary statements on DOBs etc might be at doubt (traditionally it's an issue with actors lying), and that is even more an issue here. I would advise removing anything from one of the tweets et al - it would be tripping up over numerous of our sourcing requirements. Nosebagbear (talk) 00:29, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: I totally understand that, but the absurdity is that if an actor/celebrity does an interview with a publication and states their DOB, that publication just accepts it and for some reason this is supposed to add credibility because XYZ123 magazine published it? They don't fact check that stuff via public records or demanding ID from the the person they interview. Anyway, this I forget the details of this particular discussion as it is over a year old. --SVTCobra 01:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Nationality

In the info box, under the heading "Nationality", the subject is listed as being Scottish. However, Scotland is part of the UK, and the nationality would therefore be British. Obviously the subject is Scottish, but that extra information should be listed under a separate or different heading. --82.21.97.70 (talk) 22:32, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. It's like saying all Welsh citizens are actually English or all Catalans and Basques are Spanish. Emperoringo (talk) 23:25, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

The Welsh would actually be British citizens, too, not English. Catalans and Basques would be Spanish citizens as well.--MacX85 (talk) 12:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Dankula's directed his viewers to vandalize this page

Persistent vandalism may occur for a while, I'd leave this semi-protected for a while. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH_qirRxZnU FAISSALOO_(talk) 21:14, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

no he didn't, he gave his life story therefore can be used as a source 2A02:C7F:C3F:7700:D18A:27CD:1A0:109A (talk) 17:17, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Incredibly biased article

Meechan is a youtuber who does a lot of stuff from his Mad Lads vids, to current affairs to general comedy. Yet all we read here is that he was arrested for making a pug vid which the world overreated to...oh, and he used to support Ukip. Come on, wiki is supposed to be politically non-biased, yet why does it feel I am reading the views of the radical-left? This is like reading an article on Winston Churchil, and the only points of his entire life mentioned are Gallipoli and his Tory Party ties. Ammend this. (13thcenturyschizoid man.2020) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:18C9:C500:AD7D:7F21:9D0:4F35 (talk) 14:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@2A02:C7F:18C9:C500:AD7D:7F21:9D0:4F35:, firstly, new posts go at bottom - they struggle to be seen otherwise. You also need to sign posts with ~~~~ if you actually want any reply.

Wikipedia goes off what generally reliable secondary sources cover. Most commonly non-tabloid newspapers, books and so on. So for it to be included at all it needs to be covered by that. Within that, it gets covered by due coverage, which very roughly means if an event got more coverage, it will receive a greater part of the article's coverage. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

last name pronounciation

Add this next to his last name (Me - kun) because many people keep pronouncing his last name incorrectly — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torchwood2007 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2021

Schant19 (talk) 02:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Markus and Sue had their first child on March 19, 2021 named Sadie.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, the date in your next request contradicts this request. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2021 (2)

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Markus' wife Sue gave birth to their daughter Sadie on March 17, 2021.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, the date in your previous request contradicts this request. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

previous emplyment

i dont know the standard procedures for editing wiki pages about stuff like this so i will leave it to anyone who knows how, in this debate video markus states he used to work in foster care, and it is probably something that can be researched more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chokwits yum (talk • contribs) 05:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2022

An Update to the subscriber count is needed. It's been 7 months and he is nearing 1 million now. 94.15.70.79 (talk) 01:00, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done Khrincan (talk) 01:13, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Move article

The article should be moved to Count Dankula; he is much better known under that pseudonym. Sinistrality2023 (talk) 17:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Use of "right wing" in opening sentence

The source given for this makes no reference to him being right-wing, nor do any of the sources on the page. Surely this should be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bens dream (talk • contribs) 13:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

It is perfectly well sourced that he was a UKIP candidate. "right-wing" is as soft as we can pedal this. If anything, it is too soft, bordering on euphemism. DanielRigal (talk) 23:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Especially considering his frequent association with white nationalists 86.9.5.164 (talk) 22:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)