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The IRA?Im almost certain he was killed by the INLA.Could someone clarify this?And im sure he was killed for drug dealing,not for invovlement with loyalistsDermo69

There was speculation that he was killed by the INLA, but the IRA intimidated them into silence - however, whether there is evidence or not is another question. Autarch 18:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Williams[edit]

There is a problem with this article, as it relies almost completely on the publications of a tabloid journalist from a tabloid newspaper. Paul Williams is not a credible source. His books are not referenced and are written as bestsellers. I know for a fact that his first book is full of some of the most basic inaccuracies concerning the subject and his life. The new theory outlined by User:Kingstowngalway is interesting, but I cannot help thinking that Williams has concocted this in an effort to make a few bob.--Damac 10:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you know of any other reliable sources, please introduce them into the article. Paul Williams meets WP guidelines for reliable sources, regardless of your personal opinion. One Night In Hackney 15:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My opinions are far from personal. There are reliable sources on the biography of the subject which I am familar with but which are not published. Williams produces highly marketable products; he does not produce history.--Damac 00:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the evidence to support this, The IRA claimed they killed Cahill in response to his alleged involvement with a loyalist paramilitary group, there were rumours at the time that the IRA killed him, but I don't recall the IRA ever issuing a statement admiting that they had done it.--padraig3uk 17:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The IRA did in fact claim responsibility, as per the following http://republican-news.org/archive/1998/May28/28film.html Hoops1899 (talk) 23:54, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking of Removing Stupid Quote[edit]

My header says it all. But that quote says nothing. I'm sure some protocol's being broken here. "Que sera, sera" ??? First off, it's obvious Cahill's quoting another source and secondly there is no context being given. Shoot, if someone ever writes an article on me they can "quote" me as saying, "I think therefore I am" and "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" as well as "Here comes the sun." Wellesradio 02:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Wellesradio[reply]

Yeah I would fully agree with you on that. BigDunc 09:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Credible Source Hi , I am a credible source as I am a relative of Martin Cahill himself.Dillo2k9 (talk) 00:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cause given in box[edit]

It says he was assassinated by the IRA. Shouldn't there be at least a question mark? -- UKoch (talk) 00:14, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTEVERYTHING says Information should not be included in this encyclopedia solely because it is true or useful. A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject. That Martin Cahill was shot while driving to a local Xtra-vision to return a borrowed copy of Alien 3 is not a summary, but an inclusion of all possible information no matter how trivial. The average reader is not interested in which shop he was travelling to nor which video tape he was returning. FDW777 (talk) 15:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does the article need to say Martin Cahill was "shot while driving to a local Xtra-vision to return a borrowed copy of Alien 3"? FDW777 (talk) 22:12, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No We should just say he was shot while driving. The extra info is trivial clutter. Bonewah (talk) 11:54, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes It is true. ~ HAL 333 15:05, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure it's true? The independent biography of Cahill (as opposed to a fawning hagiography written by a family member) by Paul Williams doesn't agree. FDW777 (talk) 19:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No. It sounds like it is supposed to be amusing trivia, but the man was shot and killed. Yes, at first I thought it was funny too, but it's just not appropriate. People can read this on a blog. Not for our encyclopedia. Cleopatran Apocalypse (talk) 13:55, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No Trivial clutter.Pincrete (talk) 10:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]