Talk:Martine Moïse

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Editnotice[edit]

In an attempt to counteract the influx of BLP-violating edits, I have created an editnotice that will appear when people edit the page. I have set it to expire in 24 hours, under the assumption that we'll have a clear answer by then. Since things are moving quickly, I have placed the editnotice's contents at Talk:Martine Moïse/editnotice, meaning that you don't need to be a template editor/extendemover/sysop to edit it. Feel free to update it as facts become more (or less) clear, including blanking it if it becomes unnecessary. (At which point, let me know and I'll tag the editnotice for deletion.) -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 14:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since the BLP issues seem to have stopped, I've turned off the editnotice for now. If the issues resume, anyone can reënable it by setting the expiry parameter to a date in the future (or leaving it blank). -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 07:54, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dead or alive?[edit]

@Tamzin: I've found several articles in Italian and French media who state that Mme Moïse also died because of her injuries. However, I have not found confirmation of this in British/US media. What shall I do? -Karma1998 (talk) 15:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Karma1998: What are the sources? While there isn't (to my knowledge) an explicit policy on this, I would say:
  • If there's one reliable source saying she's dead, keep things present-tense, no death date, etc., but prominently note "$source has reported that she died"
  • If there's more than one, then flip the tense, death date, etc., with WP:INTEXT attribution to the claim
  • No matter what, we shouldn't say unqualified that she's died until the Haitian government confirms that.
-- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 15:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin: now that you mention it, I've realized only Italian media speak of her death; French media are actually silent, despite what I previously understood. Also, I've found an article on Dominican newspaper Diario Libre, which states that she survived. I will not edit the page until clear information arrives. -Karma1998 (talk) 15:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]