Talk:Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite
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Characters as functions
[edit]This interview with Peter Rosas generated controversy and memes from fans when Rosas, getting asked a question regarding the absence of X-Men characters such as Magneto and Sentinel, he responded with "these characters are just functions", and asserted that characters in the roster such as Captain Marvel and Ultron would be suitable replacements due to having moves and abilities Magneto had in the previous game such as an eight-way air dash. Fans were quick to mock this statement mercilessly, to the point that someone even modded the previous game just to show how silly the "characters are just functions" statement was. Is this worthy of notice? Leader Vladimir (talk) 00:17, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- Unless it receives significant coverage from other sites, a bunch of memes is not worth mentioning. Wani (talk) 00:39, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- This is starting to get silly, I think the page needs protection. 79.74.196.74 (talk) 17:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- Already requested. Wani (talk) 17:40, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- This is starting to get silly, I think the page needs protection. 79.74.196.74 (talk) 17:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Protection
[edit]The IP address keeps adding information and literally refuses to add a source. He's not going to listen, please have the page protected. 88.105.185.222 (talk) 13:42, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Page protection is meant for articles suffering from numerous IP/User vandals within a short time period. Since only one IP is involved, WP:RFPP can't be applied here. Their behavior constitutes edit warring, which needs to be run through WP:AN3. A content dispute such as this should be resolved with a discussion on the article's talk page; unfortunately, since the IP is a mobile user and has a dynamic IP address, they're never going to see any messages or warnings placed on their own talk page. I have provided a formal warning about their edit warring (even though they probably won't see it), so if the problem continues, I can proceed to file a report if necessary. Wani (talk) 03:11, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
GA Review
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: TheJoebro64 (talk · contribs) 20:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Still more of a DC guy than a Marvel fan, but glad to take a look. JOEBRO64 20:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
- Lead
- The third paragraph is a bit out of weight compared to the other ones. I don't think this is necessarily a big deal, but just wanted to point this out.
- There's more stuff I'd like to put in the third paragraph, but it's time dependent. I'll add a sentence about sales once we figure out how good or bad they were (in terms of their two million sales target). Capcom will probably also release an updated version for Infinite, à la Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition, in the future, which would pad it out further. Wani (talk) 21:24, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
The game received reviews ranging from mixed to generally positive You should avoid "mixed to positive" phrases, according to WP:VGG. It doesn't really make sense, and simply saying "mixed" implies that some reviews were positive.
- Gameplay
You might want to explain the Hyper Combo Gauge before explaining the Counter-Switch. Some people might not be familiar with MVC's mechanics.- The types of Infinity Stones don't really need to be noted; the examples are enough.
According to Producer Mike Evans and Associate Producer Peter Rosas, the development team examined the strengths and weaknesses of each returning character and adjusted them by providing new moves and abilities, hoping to make every fighter viable.[11][19] In terms of roster selection, characters were chosen based on two aspects: their potential interactions within the story and their gameplay style.[19] The developers sought to include a variety of different character archetypes, from small, nimble characters, such as Strider Hiryu, to large, brawler-type characters, such as the Hulk.[19] The Marvel characters' designs were proposed by Capcom's research and development team in Japan, who took inspiration from both the characters' comic book and film appearances.[20] Marvel staff members worked closely with the team, providing feedback to maintain the authenticity of their characters' portrayals.[19] While speaking at E3 2017, Evans explained how they picked the roster based on which characters Marvel was currently pushing or planning to push in the future.[21][22] This seems like it would fit better in development, not gameplay.
- @TheJoebro64: Moving all of that to the development section will leave only a couple short sentences left in the playable characters sub-section. Is that okay? Wani (talk) 23:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Wani: I think it's fine. The table is good information so those sentences will suffice. JOEBRO64 23:35, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64: Moving all of that to the development section will leave only a couple short sentences left in the playable characters sub-section. Is that okay? Wani (talk) 23:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- Story
Would "plot" be a better name for this section?- The characters who are listed in the chart don't need to be linked in the story section.
I would also suggest trying to trim this section. In my articles I try to keep the amount of plot to a minimum, only keeping the most significant details.
- @TheJoebro64: I've trimmed it a bit. Is that good enough? Wani (talk) 01:23, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- Development
See my third point in gameplay.
- Release
Don't need to link the DLC fighters, since they're linked above.
- Reception
Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Major works, all the websites should be italicized.- As with the lead, "mixed to positive" is an awkward phrase; just go with "mixed", "average", or "lukewarm".
- Game Informer, Eurogamer, and Destructoid are linked more than once.
Ditto for Disney and Marvel.
- Marvel Studios? That's only linked once. Wani (talk) 23:56, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
The game received praise for its gameplay, including its changes to the series' traditional tag team system and the addition of the Infinity Stones. Generalized statement lacking proper refs.Same goes with the opening paragraphs of the following paragraphs.
- @TheJoebro64: The generalized statements are supposed to be supported by all the sourced sentences that come after them. Do you want me to invoke the same footnotes or something? Wani (talk) 23:49, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Wani: Yes, that's what I mean. In the other GANs/FACs I've been involved in, everything (including the generalizations) is supposed to be backed by reliable refs (except the plots). JOEBRO64 00:08, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64: The generalized statements are supposed to be supported by all the sourced sentences that come after them. Do you want me to invoke the same footnotes or something? Wani (talk) 23:49, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
If I am not back within a few days with a completed review, please ping me. JOEBRO64 19:41, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64: Hey there. Just chiming in to see how you're doing. Wani (talk) 20:11, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Wani: Sorry, I've been busy. I've started putting down some points; I'll finish by the end of the weekend. JOEBRO64 20:20, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64: No sweat. I've been really busy too. Just take your time. Wani (talk) 00:59, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Wani: OK, that took me a bit longer than expected. Overall, this article is in fantastic shape; once my points are addressed, I'll pass this. JOEBRO64 20:16, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64: Well, besides the lingering question I have for the plot, I believe I've addressed all of your concerns with the article. Thank you very much for taking the time to review my nomination.
On a side note, since you mentioned you're more of a DC fan, I have also recently listed Injustice 2 at GAN as well, if you're interested. I'd certainly appreciate it. Wani (talk) 03:08, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Wani: Great! The plot is much better in size so I think this is a pass! JOEBRO64 11:12, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64: Well, besides the lingering question I have for the plot, I believe I've addressed all of your concerns with the article. Thank you very much for taking the time to review my nomination.
- @Wani: OK, that took me a bit longer than expected. Overall, this article is in fantastic shape; once my points are addressed, I'll pass this. JOEBRO64 20:16, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64: No sweat. I've been really busy too. Just take your time. Wani (talk) 00:59, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Wani: Sorry, I've been busy. I've started putting down some points; I'll finish by the end of the weekend. JOEBRO64 20:20, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Deleted shit
[edit]Wow, you guys think Edge and the Official PS Magazine aren't important reviews. So be it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.35.176 (talk • contribs)
- No. The reasons your edits were reverted were:
- You were listing way too many reviews. The recommended number is 6 - 8. The whole point of including the Metacritic links is to allow readers to look up more reviews for themselves if they're interested. Wikipedia is not an aggregator site.
- You were adding them just for the sake of filling up the review table (kinda like Wikipedia:Hat collecting), rather than adding them to provide insight that hasn't already been stated several times before by other sources.
- You were just quote-farming from Metacritic. Wani (talk) 21:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
X-Men
[edit]This game has no x-men, and the series started as X-Men vs Street Fighter. This is worth mentioning somewhere, considering it likely had an impact on sales and reception 2600:1700:40D0:2780:98B0:359F:1E64:63B0 (talk) 02:41, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in the reception section. --SubSeven (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2022 (UTC)