Talk:Mary Greyeyes

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mary Greyeyes/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Auntieruth55 (talk · contribs) 16:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I'll be starting this review in the enxt few days. auntieruth (talk) 16:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Overall, this is a good article.

Portrait?

This article needs a portrait photo of its subject. It has a double-portrait of her brother, and one of a mass of enlistees (not including her) but the only picture of Mary Greyeyes herself is the publicity shot that made her famous. Surely a portrait photo exists (I found one in her obituary, but a copyright is claimed). --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Plains Cree vs Woods Cree

I do not claim to be an expert on Ms. Greyeyes, but it might be useful to note if she was a Plains Cree or a Woods Cree. The feathered headdress being worn by the "chief" in the famous 1942 photograph is the type of headdress worn by Plains Indians chiefs, which is what most people wrongly think is the style of all First Nations chiefs across Canada. Woods Cree chiefs did not wear that type of headdress, at least not traditionally. There was a tendency on the part of chiefs in the 20th century to adopt the style of Plains Indians because that was what white people expected to see. Hollywood has given most people the very misleading idea that the all Indians across North America were like the Plains Indians, which is not the case at all. Just as an aside here, a striking sign of the way that most people view history through the prism of Hollywood westerns can be seen that almost everybody thinks the cowboys in the 19th century American West were all white; in fact, half of them were black. The idea of cowboys were all white is the result of Westerns made by Hollywood in the 20th century, which literally white-washed history. Most people think the idea of black cowboys in the 19th century is absurd, when in fact it was the norm. The past does not change; what does change is the memory of the past. In the same way, when most people think about the First Nations, they think Plains Indians, because most people only know Indians from the way that Hollywood depicted them. True, Hollywood Westerns usually were and are set in the United States, but most Canadian popular culture is very strongly influenced by American popular culture. It might be useful for the article to say whatever somebody dressed as a "chief" in the style of the Plains Indians was a part of her heritage or not. If she was a Plains Cree, the feathered headdress would have been a part of her culture; if she was a Woods Cree, then it would not have been, which would add another inaccuracy to the famous photo from 1942. Greyeyeys came from central Saskatchewan so she could be either a Plains Cree or a Woods Cree. --A.S. Brown (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2018 (UTC)