Talk:Maryland Route 2

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U.S. Roads: State highways / Maryland Mid‑importance

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Possibility of splitting article[edit]

In north Baltimore city, Maryland Route 2 is known as "St. Paul Street" in a Southbound direction, and "Calvert Street" northbound. Both of these are a one-way pair of major streets, both of major importance, with a large number of landmarks and a lot of history. to the south of Pratt Street, they become a large, two-way street called "Light Street" that although short, is well-known as forming the western boundary of the Inner Harbor tourist area. Would it make sense to form a new, separate article titled "St. Paul Street-Calvert Street" with a redirect from "Light Street?" Sebwite 20:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do a separate article or articles, but don't take away from this article. All you have to do is link to Maryland Route 2 & vice versa. You don't need to disambiguate. Also Route 2 has many other names on its course, e.g., for most of its run through Calvert County, Maryland it is known as Solomon's Island Road. clariosophic 18:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Commencing review[edit]

This article appears neutral and stable. Specific queries:

Is there a refrence for the claim that the route "is the longest state highway in the U.S. state of Maryland". Editors comparing route lengths derived from google maps etc would constitute WP:OR.
- I added references the HLR, which lists the length of every state-maintained highway in Maryland by county. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why is "Governor Ritchie Highway" in bold?
- It is a redirect to the article. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is "Ritchie Highway" the same thing as "Governor Ritchie Highway"? If so, use the same language.
- I used both forms for variety and indicated it in lead. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The lead should be a summary of the body text, but at present there are facts in the lead that don't appear in the body text, such as the claim that it is the lognest highway in MD, and indeed the fact that MD2 is a highway in Maryland. These omissions should be picked up in the body text, probably in the first para, put possibly also eelsewhere, such as in the history.
- Indicated MD 2 is longest state highway and located in Maryland at beginning of route description. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Solomons Island Road intersects MD 2N (Calvert Cliffs Parkway), which provides access to the Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant and another segment of MD 765 which runs to the west of the route on Saw Mill Road." This is very confusing - it currently reads as though MD 2N provides the access to the power plant - is that correct? Also, both in this sentence and the ones preceding, there appears to be a lot of detail about MD765. WHy?
- MD 2N does in fact provide access to the power plant. The reason for a lot of detail about MD 765 is that is parallels MD 2/4 and is a former alignment of the road as mentioned in the history.
"...MD 765 branches off to the east of MD 2/MD 4 onto Main Street..." This implies it was a concurrency prior to this. Is that the case, and if so, clarify text. The whole relationship with 765 appears messy in the text - consider simplifying it, by omitting unimportant intersections etc, or provide an early overview sentence about that relationship.
- I indicated the official suffix for the segments of MD 765; these are only mentioned in offical documents while most maps and signs show it simply as MD 765. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"...at a partial interchange that has only a southbound exit to westbound I-695, a northbound entrance, and a southbound entrance from I-695 eastbound. Maryland Route 711 (Arundel Corporation Road) provides the access from eastbound I-695 to MD 2". Why is this rather confusing detail in the text, when it is covered in the route table at the end of the article?
- Simplified. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reference for the point that "Potee Street and is maintained by the Baltimore Department of Transportation"?
- It is in the Baltimore City HLR. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"...intersecting Maryland Route 173 (Patapsco Avenue) and coming to an interchange with I-895 (Harbor Tunnel Thruway) a short distance later that has access from northbound MD 2 to northbound I-895 and from southbound I-895 to southbound MD 2" This would benefit from clarification and simplication.
- Split into two sentences. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"MD 2/MD 4 was dualized from their southern spilt north of Solomons Island north to Port Republic". Two things - need agreement on number ("was" versus "their"); and, although i think i know what you mean, the double use of north makes it hard to read. Can it be simplified?
- Fixed. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is it for specific queries. I will drop back in in coming days. hamiltonstone (talk) 04:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Thanks for the review. I have replied to the above comments. Dough4872 (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Maryland Route 2[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Maryland Route 2's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "1936 src report":

From Maryland Route 648: Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. p. 3. Retrieved 2013-01-20.
From Maryland Route 147: Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. p. 4. Retrieved 2011-07-17.
From Maryland Route 542: Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. p. 79. Retrieved 2011-07-10.
From Maryland Route 260: Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. p. 105. Retrieved 2013-01-10.
From Maryland Route 176: Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. p. 54. Retrieved 2012-12-15.
From List of former Maryland state highways (200–399): Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. pp. 61, 68. Retrieved 2014-04-18.
From List of former Maryland state highways (400–499): Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. p. 69. Retrieved 2014-07-06.
From Maryland Route 177: Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. p. 1. Retrieved 2012-12-20.
From List of former Maryland state highways (600–699): Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. pp. 68, 82, 87, 89, 254, 259. Retrieved 2014-12-22.
From Maryland Route 372: Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. pp. 52, 54, 99. Retrieved 2012-09-29.
From List of former Maryland state highways (500–599): Tabler, H.E.; Wilkinson, C. Nice; Luthardt, Frank F. (December 4, 1936). Report of the State Roads Commission of Maryland (1935–1936 ed.). Baltimore: Maryland State Roads Commission. pp. 82, 256. Retrieved 2014-12-14.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:34, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Southern Terminus Route 2[edit]

From Thomas Johnson Road coming eastward to Solomons Island Road, there is an MD shield indicating MD 2 south. This is south of Lore Road. This would seem to indicate that the southern terminus is further south than the current article indicates.

The southern terminus is correct per the Highway Location Reference for Calvert County, an official route log published by the Maryland State Highway Administration. The signage there may be incorrect. Dough4872 20:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]