Talk:McSpicy

Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2020

"The product contains with a thick, juicy spiced fried-chicken cutlet sandwich between the two buns that has been slathered with mayonnaise to round out the heat" should be changed to "This product contains..." or "This product consists of spiced fried-chicken cutlet sandwich with a mayonnaise spread."

"Since when Mcdonald conquered the country.[11]" should be deleted.

"According to Vikram Bakshi, an [a] Connaught Plaza's managing director said that “I cannot allow a large organization, this [multinational] monster, whatever you want to call it, to truly belittle our contributions," should be changed to, "According to Vikram Bakshi, a Connaught Plaza's managing director said that, "I cannot allow a large organization, this [multinational] monster, whatever you want to call it, to truly belittle our contributions."

The entire "Controversy" section should be clarified and reviewed. Mcbenseigs (talk) 04:28, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done, removed strange sentences and adjusted according to the references. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:38, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

A bit of rewriting

Given the McSpicy (and McSpice) name isn't exactly consistently used by McDonalds, I've tried to give a flavour of both the "main" burger itself and the major variants (including the Indian Paneer burger, the Vietnamese Deluxe burger-with-tomato, and the Korean chicken breast burger).

I also removed the history section since we have only limited actual history, and the controversy section that had little to do with the burger specificially.

Extra references would be very welcome - I am not 100% comfortable with the reliance on McDonald's own websites but in some cases, I suspect knowledge of the local language will be needed to go further.

I'm not sure whether the Norwegian burger really belongs, given the slightly different name, but I've kept it in anyway. Hypnotist uk (talk) 20:06, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Centring Singapore

The edits by User:Ekuftle put Singapore front and centre but, while it is a very popular burger in that country, I do not believe any sources say it originated there. (It may not even have been the first use of the McSpicy name, which was also in use in 1999 in the UK).

I added a few citation needed tags where we really need sources to back up the claims, but otherwise at some point the language will need cleaned up. Hypnotist uk (talk) 16:10, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

McSpicy did began in Singapore in 1999, obviously there isn't much documentation behind it, after all it's just a spicy chicken sandwich. It remains concrete however that individuals associate the burger with Singapore's McDonald's, and unless McDonald's is lying it is explicitly mentioned on their Singapore website that it was "Made for Singapore since 1999" (https://www.facebook.com/mcdsg/posts/made-for-singapore-since-1999-the-mcspicy-has-since-become-an-iconic-favourite-f/1513094568737111/), which is what influenced my inclusions. There wasn't a McSpicy (the burger that we know of today, that is) in the UK in 1999. Ekuftle (talk) 19:07, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

"Made for Singapore since 1999" doesn't necessarily mean first made in Singapore. None of the other McDonalds sites I looked at say it was originally from Singapore, and we don't have dates for when they introduced it. And my impression is that HK McDonalds consumers don't associate the burger with Singapore, though I guess it is possible that those in other countries do. Indeed the USA Today article we reference talks of it being from HK, not Singapore. Anyway, I still think "first" needs a specific citation or removing, but I would be interested what others think. Hypnotist uk (talk) 11:02, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I am also uncomfortable with the wording "the contemporary McSpicy" to mean the breaded chicken thigh version. If we could have a source to say the chicken thigh version is the "best known", I would go with that. But with McDonalds India serving a McSpicy Paneer (alongside its McSpicy Chicken) for over ten years, described as "one of the biggest selling items on the McDonald’s India menu", I am not sure that's sufficiently global. It is clear that McDonalds has no global standard for what a McSpicy is. Hypnotist uk (talk) 11:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I feel like it's all kinda arbitrary at this point thanks to McDonald's vagueness. For starters, I'm not why Norway's McSpice is included in this article. And while "McSpice" and "McSpicy" could be considered similar in name (but not really either), the two sandwiches couldn't be any more distinct. Even McGriddles and McMuffin have way more similarities ingredients-wise and they have separate articles. Ekuftle (talk) 13:06, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

For sure, we are lacking a lot of information and it does make the article pretty bland. I think it is useful to see the different uses McDonalds uses of the name but you can see above I was in two minds about whether the McSpice would fit when I made the last set of big edits to the page. (For what it's worth, the page was a lot more tilted towards the McSpicy in India before that.) I am keen that we don't make any leaps we don't have good sources to back up though. I was contemplating asking McDonalds Singapore directly if they invented it! Hypnotist uk (talk) 13:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC)