Talk:Mech (disambiguation)

Derailleur gears

Why did my addition of the colloquial use of the word get removed (mech, in the context of bicycles describes the front and rear Derailleur gears mechanisms on a bicycle). It's a very common term! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.142.37 (talk) 14:39, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That meaning does not seem to be discussed in the Derailleur gears article. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:19, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mech (disambiguation) → Mech – I don't believe the "Mecha" fictional giant robot meaning is sufficiently dominant to consider it a proper WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Mech". —BarrelProof (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Please specify what topic(s) challenge the current primary topic. By page views, the only topic in the same ballpark as Mecha is Mechanized infantry, and it's still less than half the views. The history of those two topics suggests they have about equal longevity. The "Various topics relating to mechanics and mechanisms" entry is dubious in my opinion. I think that very few users would arrive at this page if they were looking for one of those two topics. -- Fyrael (talk) 19:32, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, here's the page views I'm referring to: [1] -- Fyrael (talk) 19:40, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Taken together, I think the tribe of people, the language, mechanized infantry, and the Russian word have sufficient importance that the alternative name for a primarily-Japanese fictional giant robot should not be considered a dominant primary meaning (especially in regard to long-term significance, and noting that the primary name for that topic seems to be "mecha", not "mech"), although it may appear so from page views. There is also the surname and radar system, and I also believe there are other topics relating to mechanics and mechanisms (e.g., Derailleur gears as noted above, and possibly a nickname of the former Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College, which was mentioned in that redirect's article before I removed it in this edit, which are not currently explicitly included on the dab page). —BarrelProof (talk) 19:56, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Topics that don't even merit an entry on the DAB page probably shouldn't be much of a consideration for primacy. Also, I believe that "mecha" is just barely preferred over "mech" for that article title, which the talk archives support. -- Fyrael (talk) 06:00, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - No evidence has been shown for the Nom's position, they merely cite their belief that this is the case. If someone said to me "it's a mech", probably the pilotable robot is the first thing that would occur to me, so I am not sure their belief is true. A test of this using the first 30 results on GBooks returns: 13 results related to science-fiction robots, 8 results for it being a shortening of "mechanics" (e.g. "Mech of solids"), 3 results relating to the tribe, and six others related to various other things (e.g., a writer with the surname "mech", as a shortening of "mechanised infantry" etc.). FOARP (talk) 07:24, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There is no evidence that Mech tribe, the rare surname, or the radar system are even remotely as primary a topic as the cultural phenomenon of mecha._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:52, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Better to disambiguate this term. Dicklyon (talk) 04:06, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:ASTONISH. "mech" refers primarily to mechanics or mechanisms, and readers certainly won't expect to be taken to a topic that isn't even at the title "mech" in the first place, and wouldn't be recognisable to most people as a "mech". — Amakuru (talk) 12:24, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ASTONISH does not provide any insight one way or the other here. We're currently discussing whether or not the average reader expects to arrive at what is currently the primary topic when they look for "mech". And since it's the second time it's been brought up, I'd like to point out that "Mecha" being chosen over "Mech" as the title for that article has little-to-no bearing on whether it's also the primary topic for "mech". See Stone for another example. Just because "Rock" was picked over "Stone" as the title doesn't mean the topic isn't primary for "stone". -- Fyrael (talk) 14:16, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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