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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Meteorological history of Cyclone Freddy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: HurricaneEdgar (talk · contribs) 10:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 03:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hi HurricaneEdgar (talk · contribs), happy to review this!

Lead
  • I think the first sentence should focus just on the longevity record. If anything is the second-most or the most of anything, then the most is probably the more interesting stat.
  • "It also had the most accumulated cyclone energy of any individual cyclone and is the only known tropical cyclone to have achieved seven separate rapid intensification cycles." - you should probably explain what ACE is considering it's the first time you mentioned the term. The seven rapid intensification cycles could be mentioned in the narrative of the storm, such as the first time Freddy did it, saying something like "the first of a record seven rapid intensification cycles throughout its duration".
  • "The cyclone was the fourth named storm and the second very intense tropical cyclones of the 2022–23 Australian region and South-West Indian Ocean cyclone seasons." - when you mention it being the fourth named storm, that's when you should mention the date, since at this point it's the first reference to the year, and there still hasn't even been a reference to the time of year. Be sure to add that somewhere in the first paragraph. I suggest you completely rewrite/reorder the lead so instead of the first paragraph listing every record, instead it's more of an introduction to Freddy and its meteorological history
checkY Done, I have made the changes and deleted the mention of the 2023–24 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season. HurricaneEdgar 08:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You should add the general area where it formed
checkY Done
  • "The United States Joint Typhoon Warning Center estimated Freddy's peak strength, equivalent to Category 5 hurricane on the Saffir–Simpson scale with peak winds of 270 km/h (165 mph)." - when? Also, what was the basis for the intensity estimate?
checkY Deleted, It's unclear why the category 5 hurricane is mentioned in the lead, given that it highlights the peak from MFR. HurricaneEdgar 08:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Be sure to link barometric pressure and landfall
  • There isn't much meteorological history in the lead, such as what allowed it to last so long, what caused it to take the track that it did, and even basic stuff like how long it was at peak intensity, or its intensity fluctuations (other than seven rapid intensification cycles)
  • "Freddy first made landfall near Mananjary, Madagascar." - when? How strong?
  • "Soon after, Freddy made its second landfall just south of Vilankulos, Mozambique, where it began to regain tropical characteristics upon re-emerging into the channel and subsequently intensified into tropical cyclone status. " - that's a lot for one sentence, should definitely be split up. Also, "soon" doesn't exactly mean "three days" which is how long it actually took. How much stronger did it get in the Moz Channel?
  • " Catastrophic flooding and extensive wind damage ensued, resulting in 1,434 fatalities across its path in Southern Africa, making it the third-deadliest tropical cyclone recorded in the Southern Hemisphere, only behind 2019's Cyclone Idai and the 1973 Flores cyclone." - none of this is sourced or reflected in the article.
Formation and intensification
  • "An active phrase of the Madden–Julian oscillation in conjunction with an equatorial Rossby wave led to the formation of a tropical low on 5 February." - where?
  • Why the "However" in the second sentence?
  • "Given the increase in organization, the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BoM)[nb 2] stated that the tropical low had strengthened into a Category 1 tropical cyclone on the Australian tropical cyclone intensity scale and was given the name Freddy." - when?
  • Be sure to link tropical cyclogenesis when you mention "formation", as well as "eye"
  • "As the storm moved away from the Australian region" - what do you mean by Australian region? When I hear region, I think of the entire basin, but it didn't leave the basin for a few more days.
  • "As a result, it was classified as a Category 2 hurricane on the Saffir–Simpson hurricane wind scale by the JTWC." - the JTWC doesn't use the SSHS like this. Cat 2 equivalent would work, or you could just list their estimated peak intensity? Same thing when you later say "and upgraded the system to a Category 4 hurricane"
  • "the system became increasingly disorganized, with the increase in wind shear" - could you increase the variety of the words in this sentence? (couldn't resist, sorry :P )
  • "The BoM reported that Freddy peaked in the Australian region as a high-end Category 4 severe tropical cyclone" - whoa that's whiplash considering the previous sentence just said that Freddy weakened back into a minimal tropical storm. What happened? Try having more a smooth transition
  • " At the same time" - when? The last date reference was February 7th, when apparently it weakened into a tropical storm, but I have no idea when it restrengthened, or how
  • "By that time, the eyewall had cloud tops colder than −130 °F (−90 °C)" - this is the first reference to the storm's structure in several days. Could you please add more detail?
  • " Over the following days, the cyclone's structure gradually became disorganized, with its eye no longer well-defined by 12 February." - why?
Peak intensity
  • First off, the section covers a lot more than the storm's peak intensity
  • "The JTWC, meanwhile, assessed that Freddy had peaked with sustained wind speeds of 270 km/h (165 mph)" - there's no transition into this section, so the "meanwhile" has almost no reference point. And similar to earlier, on what basis was this estimate? What was the storm structure like?
  • Why the mention of Winston? Completely different storm and basin
checkY Delete, I acknowledge that Winston and Fantala were the same, not connected to Freddy. HurricaneEdgar 08:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • " This made Freddy the one and only five tropical cyclones with Category 5 hurricane during the month of February." - again, Freddy wasn't a Category 5 hurricane. Do you mean Category 5 on the Australian cyclone scale? Also, the grammar is awkward.
  • " Freddy strengthened further to its peak intensity as a very intense tropical cyclones on the MFR's scale" - grammar
  • "Shortly afterward, Freddy passed north of Mauritius and Réunion, where it weakened to an intense tropical cyclones" - grammar is also awkward here. Also, why did it weaken? And when was the "shortly afterward"? There isn't a single reference to the date by this point of the section
  • "Freddy officially made landfall as a tropical cyclone status near Mananjary, Madagascar at 21:00 UTC on 21 February, with 10-minute sustained winds of 130 km/h (80 mph) and a minimum central pressure of 970 hPa (28.64 inHg)" - why the "officially"? Also, what was the storm structure by the time of landfall?
  • "Once Freddy had moved inland, it began to traverse the mountainous terrain of Madagascar, was downgraded to overland depression status, and entered the Mozambique Channel." - this is too much for one sentence. Try expanding it so the grammar flows better.
  • "Freddy attained moderate tropical storm status while in the Mozambique Channel." when?
  • I take it the conditions were favorable in the Mozambique Channel so it could reintensify both times? Warm waters?
  • The third paragraph of "Peak intensity" is all about "Records", most of which deal with the storm's entire history. That section needs to be moved.
checkY Moved
Demise
  • How did Freddy turn around? Were there any signs that the storm would move back over water?
  • "With increased convection in the eastern semicircle, Freddy re-intensified off the coast of Mozambique, achieving tropical disturbance status.[42] As Freddy showed signs of intensification, the MFR upgraded the system to a tropical depression status" - when for both events?
  • "Continuing to intensify, Freddy began to exhibit an ill-defined eye on visible satellite imagery, leading to its classification as a tropical cyclone status with 10-sustained winds of 150 km/h (90 mph)" - was this all one event at the same time? Or did this happen at different times? Who classified it as tropical cyclone status? Also the grammar is awkward here.
  • Ref 52 doesn't cover that information. It's MFR, not the JTWC you quoted.
  • "Within two hours, the eye vanished from satellite imagery and then dissipated soon thereafter, late on 14 March." - this says the eye dissipated late on March 14. But the infobox said the storm dissipated on March 14. You need to be clearer what's happening, and when.

So that's my review. There are a lot of issues, but I don't think it's impossible to fix. Please let me know if you have any questions, HurricaneEdgar (talk · contribs). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]