Talk:Meteorological history of Cyclone Leon–Eline

Meteorological history of Cyclone Leon–Eline was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
January 20, 2015	Good article nominee	Listed
March 25, 2015	Good topic candidate	Promoted
May 31, 2019	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Meteorological history of Cyclone Leon–Eline/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contribs) 02:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Cyclone Leon–Eline in February 2000 was the third-longest tracked tropical cyclone in the South-West Indian Ocean" - Ever? On the history of the planet?! I'd add "on record" to end the sentence. :)

It says "tracked" :P The dinosaurs weren't tracking them. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Moving westward, the storm fluctuated in strength due to changes in the atmosphere." - Don't hold out on me--what kind of changes?!

Added :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"On February 22, Eline made landfall about 80 km (50 mi) south of Beira, Mozambique near peak intensity, and quickly weakened over land." *No need for the comma after "intensity".

That comma is OUTTA HERE!!! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"The well-defined circulation moved across southern African, finally dissipating over eastern Namibia on February 29." - southern African?

Removed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Most storms in the Mozambique Channel turn to the south, and the storm was one of only 5% of storms that struck southern Africa. Favorable conditions allowed the storm to maintain its identity over land." - this is awkwardly worded to me. Here's a suggestion, "Most storms in the Mozambique Channel turn to the south, ultimately missing land; however, upon landfall, Eline became one of 5% of recorded cyclones to strike southern Africa." or something like that.

I like it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Make sure all instances of wind duration have hyphens (ex. 1-minute, 10-minute as opposed to 1 minute and 10 minute).

Where does it mandate that they are hyphens? As long as the article is internally consistent, I thihnk that should be fine. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Overall, Cyclone Leon–Eline traveled over 11,000 km (6,800 mi) during its 29 day duration." - put a hyphen, dash, en dash, em dash, or whatever the hell they're called between "29" and "day".

Dashy dashy. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Associated convection, or thunderstorms, was initially sparse, and over the subsequent few days the system tracked west-southwestward without much development,[1] moving around a large ridge over northwestern Australia." - This is a loaded sentence.

I split my pants... errr.... sentence. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"There was initially moderate wind shear in the region, although an anticyclone was developing aloft,[3] which allowed the convection was able to persist over the center and gradually develop outflow." - Huh?

I split it into two. Hope that works now. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

" Later that day, the storm bypassed Mauritius about 180 km (110 mi) to the northwest, although the small structure of the storm spared the island with the strongest winds." - 110mi is a good distance, why the "although"? I'd replace it with "with" while at the same time changing "spared" to "sparing" and the second "with the strongest winds" to "from the strongest winds".

Done as suggested. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"After becoming a tropical cyclone, Eline was still encountering wind shear and dry air.[4] Despite these factors, the eye became better defined and the storm intensified, aided by more favorable upper-level conditions." - Were conditions unfavorable or not?

They became more favorable, switched. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Around that time, the cyclone made landfall on eastern Madagascar near Mahanoro; the local meteorological station was destroyed, which made the landfall intensity unknown." - Eh? The landfall intensity is known to the best of our ability (estimated). It might be exact, as in it wasn't measured, but it's still known.

Yea, true. Removed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"With warm waters and still maintaining a favorable upper level environment, the depression quickly re-intensified as convection increased." - Remove "still maintaining"

Gotcha. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Over a 24 hour period, the pressure dropped by 45 mbar (1.3 inHg), indicative of rapid deepening." - 24-hour.

Got it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It says the |chapter= parameter for reference 9 was ignored.

Will pass when these comments are addressed. :) TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Passing. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 04:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?[edit]

I know I split it from the main article, but this is only 16.7 kb, and the main article is only 58.3 kb (including two paragraphs of MH). I don't think this separate MH article is needed, especially as some of the info in "statistics" is repeated as well. Merge? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:37, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I won't object, but it could go either way. The merger would bring the main article up to around 47kb/4200 words of readable prose, which is close to the threshold set by WP:SIZERULE (50kb/4000 words) for when page size begins to justify sub-articles. Plus, I dig the novelty of a SHEM met/hist page. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm leaning toward keeping this article. Its status as a tropical cyclone for 29 days (with plenty of intensity changes along the way) definitely satisfies notability for Leon-Eline to have its own MH article. Couple that with the size issue JC brought up, and the fact that this article is already well written, and I see no reason to push it back into the main article. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 20:20, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for the feedback. I intend to take the main article to FAC, and I had a flashback to Hurricane Kyle (2002), where the MH was an issue, so the MH article was created, only to be merged later. I want it to be in the (roughly) final take when I do FA nom the main article. I withdraw the merge proposal then. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:40, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support – No serious size issues presented by a merger. Additionally, merging the two articles would bring everything together in one place, which would make things more convenient for readers. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 22:35, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]