Talk:Michael Townley

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Removal of Sections[edit]

The entire section on Olaf Palme was removed as it is a violation of WP:BLP. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 17:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As this person is known to be a sock puppet perhaps the removed section should to some degree be restored. The assassination of Olof Palme (not Olaf as TDC gives it) has never been solved and there is evidence offered by at least one source that Palme's name was on the DINA list.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.213.94.237 (talk • contribs) 06:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CIA?[edit]

Just to note, CIA archives tell Townley never worked for the CIA. And to have to quote Contreras on this, is rather one-sided. Contreras is trying to cover his own back (Contreras wanted Townley and his associates to assassinate Carlos Altamirano, but they would have none of that, instead they went for Bernardo Leighton). All of this was DINA work though. Intangible2.0 09:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A reference in the article [1] says Townley implicated Pinochet for the Prats and Letelier murder during his trial. This reference seems to be a blog posting from a workers' association. Blogs are not WP:RS. Intangible2.0 15:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've put a POV tag to the whole article. What Contreras says should be used with extreme caution, yet it is dispersed troughout the article. Intangible2.0 02:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
These statements should be NPOV in the current form. His statements should now be presented as his opinion rather than fact. If you know of better sources, I suggest you add them. Antonrojo 15:52, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You act as if CIA archives are total, far from. Vast amounts of material remain classified and vast more amounts of material was most likely destroyed or not kept in official records. I dont see this as one sided at all. You have to put this into the context with the history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.227.23 (talk) 15:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Andean Thunder[edit]

Wants to remove factual information (that he was A CIA operative) and replace it with terrorist. This seems diingenious at best.--Die4Dixie (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If there's a reliable source that labels him a terrorist he might as well be considered so in the article. I might look into it if time allows.Likeminas (talk) 16:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In a BLP it had better be a damned reliable source. Please look at how this has been handled for the Weathermen. By any means, CIA operative has been reliably reported, and should stay regardless.--Die4Dixie (talk) 02:20, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Townley was a CIA operative, but that's not neccesarily exclusive from being a terrorist. Luis Posada Carriles is a prime example. Likeminas (talk) 20:36, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

True, there is no hard evidence beyond self-interested testimony, that he actually worked for the CIA. Should be at least acknowledeged as "alleged" or "according to some sources." Where is the bio background material on Townely? Any? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.70.253 (talk) 17:23, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Townley did indeed work for both the CIA and DINA. As far as bio material, I currently know where he is living and other data on him. He is still under the watchful eye of the WITSEC program in the midwest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrSpikeCharlieMike (talk • contribs) 17:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GTAV?[edit]

Should we reference in this article the fact that the name appears in Rockstar's new Grand Theft Auto V as a main character? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrWBrightside (talk • contribs) 01:25, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, unless you can show a reference those are linked, otherwise its speculation 85.139.84.145 (talk) 03:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

neruda assassination link[edit]

"The government of Chile has launched an official search for a United States suspect in connection with the alleged poisoning of celebrated poet Pablo Neruda. The Chilean literary icon, who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1971, died on September 23, 1973. His death occurred less than two weeks after a coup d’état, led by General Augusto Pinochet, toppled the democratically elected Popular Unity government of Salvador Allende, a close friend of Neruda.

The death of the internationally acclaimed poet, who was 69 at the time, was officially attributed to prostate cancer and the effects of acute mental stress over the military coup. Earlier this year, however, an official investigation was launched into Neruda’s death following allegations that he had been murdered. The investigation was sparked by a comment made by Neruda’s personal driver, Manuel Araya, who said that the poet had been deliberately injected with poison while receiving treatment for cancer at the Clinica Santa Maria in Chilean capital Santiago.

Investigators are still awaiting the completion of a complex autopsy performed on Neruda’s remains, which were exhumed in April. But the Chilean government has already issued a search order for a medical doctor —or someone pretending to be a doctor— who was allegedly on Neruda’s bedside on the night of his death. The search was issued based on comments made recently by another medical doctor, Sergio Draper, who supervised Neruda’s hospital treatment in September of 1973. Dr. Draper told government investigators that he turned over his shift that night to a “Dr. Price”, a young doctor in his late 20s, who was with Neruda in the hours leading to the poet’s death.

According to Rodolfo Reyes, a lawyer representing the Neruda estate, Dr.Price’s identity remains a mystery. The lawyer told Chilean newspaper La Tercera back in April that Dr. Price is believed to be an American “with blue eyes and very good manners”. Some supporters of the view that Neruda was poisoned claim that the physical description of Dr. Price is very close to that of Michael Townley. Townley was an agent of the United States Central Intelligence Agency who was hired by DINA, the secret police of the Chilean dictatorship, to assassinate Orlando Letelier, a Chilean former diplomat who was a vocal opponent of the Pinochet regime. . .But there is said to be unconfirmed evidence that Townley, who is currently living under the US federal witness protection program, was in Florida at the time of Neruda’s death in Santiago. Chilean government investigators say there is no entry for a “Dr. Price” in the registry of hospital staff at the Clinica Santa Maria during the time of Neruda’s death." Klasovsky (talk) 01:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/chile-launches-search-for-u-s-suspect-in-alleged-neruda-poisoning/5337992 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klasovsky (talk • contribs) 01:43, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article on Pablo Neruda includes the sentence "However, [Judge] Carroza said that he is waiting for the results of the last scientific test conducted in May (2015), which found that Neruda was infected with the Staphylococcus aureus bacterium, which can be highly toxic and result in death if modified" after the information about "no relevant chemical substances [having] been found that could be linked to Mr. Neruda's death". In my opinion the extra sentence should either be added here, or deleted there, depending on the latest state of affairs.213.127.210.95 (talk) 15:06, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CIA agent[edit]

@Consueloamat: I am partially reverting your addition as the manner in which this is done is akin to original research, however, your photographs show that you are attempting to cite United States v Sampol. This is a reliable source with good information and can be formatted for inclusion in the article. I'll try to do it myself over the next few days. - Location (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

One important passage for future reference at line 358:
"In conformity with the procedure approved in Xydas v. United States, 144 U.S.App.D.C. 184, 445 F.2d 660 (1970), the district judge reviewed the CIA file in camera. He concluded that it contained nothing exculpatory, that there were no discrepancies between the affidavits and the contents of the file and that it was not material to the preparation of the defense. Having carefully reviewed the file ourselves we agree with the district judge. There is nothing in the file that would help the defendants. Specifically, it contains no signed or verbatim statement from Townley, and there is no material that would give even the most imaginative advocate a basis for contending that Townley was ever an agent of the CIA. The District Court's ruling was correct."
Emphasis mine. - Location (talk) 21:01, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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