Talk:Mick Ensor/GA1

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Reviewer: Dracophyllum (talk · contribs) 09:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Hi, keen to review this one. Comments to follow. Dracophyllum 09:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

1a)

• Born at in Rakahuri near Rangiora | Are you referring to the sheep station or the region here?

• I'm referring to the station at this point, so have left for now. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• He died at in Christchurch in 1994, aged 74.

• Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• "and dovetailed combined this with work on the station"

• Why on earth did I used that term! Changed. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• was involved in Operation Torch,; the Allied invasion of French North Africa | Optional

• Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• Struggling with the trim of the aircraft, he brought the entire crew into the cockpit area to improve the weight distribution and turned for Algiers. | Link to Trim tab if this is what you mean

• I put that link on elevator tabs, used in the previous sentence. I put aircraft flight dynamics on "trim". Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• what are "sloops"?

• Linked. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• As Operation Overlord,(the invasion of Normandy) approached, Coastal Command stepped up its patrolling operations

• Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• much of his time, he tried to fly operationally as much as he could.

• Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• He then spent several months in New Zealand on leave,; from March to September. | Optional

• I have actually tweaked this for conciseness. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

• He died at in Christchurch on 27 December 1994.

• Done. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

1b)

Lede is appropriately sized and is a good summary of the article and sections are excellent. Pass Y

5) Article is stable Y

6a)b) Photos are tagged correctly and captions are good. Y

• Sources are reliable and well organised, no OR. Can't verify main source but clippings are accurate. Can pass this but are the newspapers excerpts a) needed (they seem to mostly restate what is said in the prose) and b) in the public domain? @Zawed: Dracophyllum 08:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

• I think you are referring to the London Gazette citations for his awards? It is common practice at Milhist to include the citations where available, and I have successfully taken articles with these citations through GA right up to FA, e.g. William Hardham, Edgar Kain. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 09:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

• • Fair enough, it just read oddly to me. Passing now, keep up the excellent work! Thanks, Dracophyllum 09:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Dracophyllum: Thanks for the review! Cheers, Zawed (talk) 10:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Notes

• https://archive.org/search?query=%22Mick+Ensor%22&sin=TXT Has some extra sources that FAC might(?) want but they are probably superfluous anyways.

• In the future I would like to get a hold of the Franks books for greater context of Coastal Command's operations against U-boats and to reduce reliance on the main source. Otherwise I am happy with the sourcing as it stands. Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree the sourcing is fine, but just in case you were unaware Internet Archive accounts are free which means you already have access to those books (at least digitally) if you would like them. Dracophyllum 10:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

@Dracophyllum: thanks for the review, much appreciated. I have responded as above and with edits to the article, and it is ready for you to take another look. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)