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Good articleMicky Adams has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 3, 2011Good article nomineeListed

GA Review

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Reviewer: SilkTork (talk · contribs · count) 16:51, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look and start to leave some comments within the next few days. I am taking on board a batch of reviews, so it may be some time before I start to comment. I am also by nature a fairly slow and thorough reviewer who likes to check out sources, so this is unlikely to be quick. However, I am always willing to help out on the editing, and will make direct minor adjustments myself rather than list them. I always welcome discussion, and see the review process as entirely collaborative. SilkTork ✔Tea time 16:51, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tick list

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Comments

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  • In doing the quick easy checks of no edit wars, images and a reference section, I noticed that this article attracts occasional vandalism. As this is a BLP I would be inclined to semi-protect it, though I am aware that some articles attract useful contributory edits from IP accounts, so there is a judgement call to be made. What is the view of the main contributors? SilkTork ✔Tea time 17:16, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't oppose protection but now that the relatively high profile (and unsuccessful) spell at Sheffield United has finished then the article should prove less of a target for vandalism.--EchetusXe 19:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The use of flag icons is generally discouraged. It's possible the use in the Managerial statistics table is unhelpful, as all the teams he managed play within the same league system, yet Swansea is shown with the Welsh flag. Would it be more relevant to show the league the teams played in? This is, though, just a general comment, as the use of the flag icons do not impact on the GA criteria. SilkTork ✔Tea time 19:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The current Swansea manager has a Welsh flag in his stats table, so too for the current Cardiff manager. The flag column could be removed of course, however I feel that using England flag would be confusing for the reader.--EchetusXe 14:07, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I would suggest removing the flag column, as the current usage is not in line with MoS guidelines - the nationality of the teams is not relevant because they all play in the same domestic league. There are lots of articles that don't follow guidelines, we can only deal with those we look at. The WP:MOSFLAG gives examples of appropriate usage, and it would be appropriate if the teams were national or representing their nations - in this case the teams are all domestic. Adams has not managed a national level team. SilkTork ✔Tea time 19:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ok, have removed the flags.--EchetusXe 19:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The phrase "turned to coaching" in the lead is not clear. My understanding is that "coaching" is frequently regarded as another term for "managing", though is sometimes used in relation to people who do the training rather than the strategy. SilkTork ✔Tea time 20:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Amended. SilkTork ✔Tea time 21:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pass

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This is a detailed, balanced, informative, attractive and very readable biography of a football manager. Sources are well used to support the statements. Good work. SilkTork ✔Tea time 07:59, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Place of birth

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A person's place of birth should include the county (as at the actual time) in which they were born. In this case, it's the West Riding of Yorkshire (Sheffield - 1961). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.252.142 (talk) 18:16, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's usually only included in the prose, and not in the infobox. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:19, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Conventionally, the footballer infobox place of birth field just gives town and country: see the example of "Template City, Templatia" at the infobox documentation. Historically accurate county (or province, region, whatever's appropriate for countries other than England) is both acceptable and desirable where the birthplace is supplied in the body of the article, but is too much detail for the infobox. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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