Talk:Mid Air (Romy album)/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: QuietHere (talk · contribs) 15:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Tbhotch (talk · contribs) 19:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Upcoming review.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality (prose is clear and concise, without exceeding quotations, or spelling and grammar errors):

   B. MoS compliance (including, but not limited to: lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists):

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources (including an appropriate reference section):

   B. Citation of available and reliable sources where necessary (including direct quotations):

   C. No original research:

   D. No copyright violations:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   edit wars, multiple edits not related to the GAN process, etc. (this excludes blatant vandalism):

6. Does it contain images (or other media) to illustrate (or support) the topic?

   A. Images (and other media) are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images (and other media) are provided where possible and are relevant, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

@QuietHere: sorry for the delay. I'll review this article as soon as I complete The Album (Jonas Brothers album)'s. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

No problem and no rush. Take all the time you need. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 04:42, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 05:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Lead

• "in collaboration with Fred Again and Stuart Price, and consists of" → wrong comma
• "The album was received positively by critics, and appeared on record charts from numerous countries." → wrong comma; "in numerous countries"
• I haven't read the whole article but I'm sure that the lead can be expanded

Background

• "but when they wrote "Loveher" in those sessions Romy decided" → "in those sessions, Romy decided"

Release

• "features Fred Again who also produced" → "features Fred Again, who also produced"
• "features a sample of the American singer-songwriter" → "a sample of American"
• "and set for a release date on" → "and set for release on"
• "a music video was released for "She's on My Mind" starring Maisie Williams and directed by Vic Lentaigne" → "a music video for "She's on My Mind", starring Maisie Williams and directed by Vic Lentaigne, was released"; active voice might be better
• "Los Angeles, New York City, Buenos Aires and Santiago" → "Los Angeles and New York City, in the United States, Buenos Aires, Argentina, and Santiago, Chile"

Style

• (This also applies to the reception section) Earwig's Copyvio Detector is currently down, but I perceive too many quotations for a short article
• "most frequently evokes ... the early 00s wave" → "most frequently evokes [...] the early 00s wave"
• "In an interview" → Who interviewed her?
• "and English music duo" → the English

Reception

• Metacritic says 8 reviews. I only can see 3 and they are quotes. It is necessary to rewrite this section.
• "Awards and nominations" can become prose; "Year-end lists" can be mentioned in prose

• Track listing and Personnel need a source for the adaptation

@QuietHere: I'll continue later with the missing sections. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 05:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Started with some of the small things. Others I left which I think are fine as is. Already have some questions/disagreements:

1. What do you mean by "wrong comma" in the lead?

• It means that that comma is incorrect.

1. Don't see the point of including the countries in "Los Angeles, New York City, Buenos Aires and Santiago" given those are four of the biggest cities in the world.

• Wikipedia is a global encyclopedia. You cannot assume the readers know everything.

1. I'm not certainly opposed to reducing the awards to prose (though I'd prefer to leave it as is unless you insist upon changing it), but with the number of year-end lists included I think it reads far better as a table.

• I didn't request the year-end list to be transformed to prose. I requested prose acknowledging the table.

1. Not sure what you mean by "adaptation", but MOS:ALBUM says that it is generally safe to assume that track listings and personnel lists are sourced directly from an album's liner notes and don't need to be explicitly sourced. I've known editors to go out of their way to remove those sources in appropriate instances, and I see nothing wrong with that.

• From where you obtained and adapted the credits? The liner notes, Tidal, Allmusic? "It is generally safe" and "other stuff exist" are not valid arguments for omission

1. Why ask for the removal of a "the" in the "American singer-songwriter" instance, but also an addition of one to "English music duo"? Seems contradictory to me, and not particularly necessary in either case.

• Beverly Glenn-Copeland is a singer-songwriter, not the singer-songwriter. She is Beverly Glenn-Copeland, not the Beverly Glenn-Copeland. The use of the for professions is limited to specific professions, like the president or the pope. You can say the teacher or the engineer, but once you already know who the teacher and the engineer are. On the opposite, it is the music duo in the same sense that you wouldn't ommit saying "the band" when referring to any band.

1. I don't think the interviewer needs to be identified in prose given all of that info is readily available in the citation.

• It is a clarified attribution. Vagueness is not clear and clarity is a criterion for the process. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 17:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)