Talk:Millicent Simmonds
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Deaf identity
[edit]Megan Joyeux, I agree with your perspective but have found that sources writing about Simmonds simply use "deaf" at this time, so Wikipedia must follow suit. I've been on the lookout for a reliable source talking about Simmonds identifying herself as Deaf, and once one can be found, I think the change can be made, either partially or in full. Pinging Investoa as well. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 14:49, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Megan Merry, please see my message above. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 17:38, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Filmography set up
[edit]I seem to be in a bit of an editing war with Erik with regards to how Simmond’s filmography should be set up. He believes to leave it like it is currently, but i believe that it should be put forth in the proper way, as ive changed it several times, see edit history. Most filmographies appear as i have tried repeatedly to make this one. It is the proper way to set up a film resume, and it looks better, and it gives more information. What do you guys think? Mine or Erik’s? Vmars22, Somethingwickedly? TheMovieGuy (talk) 04:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
NinjaRobotPirate, Bignole? TheMovieGuy (talk) 14:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm with you. Vmars22 (talk) 20:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think I've ever cared very much about the layout of a filmography. There've been a few discussions at WT:ACTOR, and the general consensus seems to have coalesced around WP:FILMOGRAPHY. However, that's just a bit of advice that anyone is free to ignore. For what it's worth, it seems to work well for the project when we get into these kinds of arguments. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:44, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- I agree with you too. It looks a lot more amateur if it is just a list, and not a table. Moreover, the more credits an actor has, the better a table looks. Now obviously Millicent Simmonds only has two acting credits at the moment, but I would still be in favour of a table format, and it is better to do it now than arguing when she has 20+ credits. Somethingwickedly (talk) 21:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- My problem with the filmography table is that the "Role" column strikes me as unnecessary. There is no particular value imparted within the biographical scope by sharing it, especially when there is no other plot information about the film in the immediate vicinity. Reviewing the AFI and BFI databases for actors' credits, it appears that they name the roles even outside the context of the film pages, so I suppose we can follow that. However, I would encourage editors to think more about the value of certain approaches and not just do something because it has been done in other places. For example, instead of a bland "Role" column, one could provide a synopsis of the film and the actor's role in it (starring, supporting, bit, etc). Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:56, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- But, that is literally not done Erik. Thats not the proper way to format it. NinjaRobotPirate did note that there is no set guideline for it, but looking at other examples, that isnt how its done. Th point of the filmography is to state the film the actor appear in and what there role in it was. Were they a producer? Note it in the notes section. Were they an actor? Note it in the role section with the name of their character. Thats the purpose of it. TheMovieGuy — Preceding undated comment added 20:36, April 9, 2018
- My problem with the filmography table is that the "Role" column strikes me as unnecessary. There is no particular value imparted within the biographical scope by sharing it, especially when there is no other plot information about the film in the immediate vicinity. Reviewing the AFI and BFI databases for actors' credits, it appears that they name the roles even outside the context of the film pages, so I suppose we can follow that. However, I would encourage editors to think more about the value of certain approaches and not just do something because it has been done in other places. For example, instead of a bland "Role" column, one could provide a synopsis of the film and the actor's role in it (starring, supporting, bit, etc). Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:56, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
References to use
[edit]- John Krasinski Pushed to Cast a Deaf Actress for 'A Quiet Place'
- Meet the deaf Utah teen who stars in thriller ‘A Quiet Place’
- How Millicent Simmonds Is Changing the World
- Take 10 With Millicent Simmonds
- A Quiet Place Actress Millicent Simmonds Inspired to Create Masks to Help Deaf Community
- Millicent Simmonds Has Centered Herself in the Fight For Disability Representation
References to use. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
References to use. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 20:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
- 'A Quiet Place Part II' star Millicent Simmonds now calls Pittsburgh home
- Millicent Simmonds: Movie star, Pittsburgher and jewelry designer
Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 15:17, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
"See also" section
[edit]Hello; I'm here to try to get a consensus on inclusion of a "See also" section which consisted only of a link to the article Neoteny, the "the delaying or slowing of the ... development of an organism", as it says. I don't see how this has any relation to the subject of this article, but because the IP reverted me with "rv section blanking" and did so again citing "no consensus on talk page", fine, I'll bring it here. Tol | talk | contribs 05:01, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pinging editors who have edited this article recently: @Erik, @Teblick. Tol | talk | contribs 05:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- I support the removal of that link and section.Eddie Blick (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well; in the time between my message and yours, it was removed again by another IP (maybe the same person). Tol | talk | contribs 17:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- I support its removal. Nonsensical placement here. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:31, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well; in the time between my message and yours, it was removed again by another IP (maybe the same person). Tol | talk | contribs 17:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- I support the removal of that link and section.Eddie Blick (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Bad info
[edit]One section says that in 2017 she was 12 years old. That would make her 16 now, 2021. she is 18. lots of errors such as this. clean it up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.160.93 (talk • contribs)
- The section says she "was 12 years old when she first acted in the 2017 film Wonderstruck". 2017 is the release date of the movie, not when it was shot. Principal photography started in early 2016 - and casting and rehearsals would have started before that, so it isn't an error. It is also properly sourced. Please read Wikipedia's policy on original research - we report what reliable sources say, we don;t synthesize our own conclusions. Laplorfill (talk) 03:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)