Talk:Minister of Finance (Sri Lanka)

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Minister of Finance (Sri Lanka) --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:59, 18 June 2013 (UTC) Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:59, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Minister of Finance of Sri Lanka → Minister of Finance (Sri Lanka) – Proper name Blackknight12 (talk) 14:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unnecessary gaps on the page and the numbering[edit]

Why does this page have unnecessary gaps and the numbering of the people need to be fixed especially when a person holds a post more than one non connective time they still should hold the same number. Thats how its done in other articles and it looks much more professional — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adhisha4 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Adhisha4, good to see you have found the talk page. The gaps indicate the status of the office as vacant, to know when the office was vacant is no less important than when it is occupied, as this is an article about who has held office and when the office was occupied. As for the numbering, it only stays the same if the office holder holds consecutive terms, other wise they are 2 different terms held at 2 different time by the same person. For example if Junius Richard Jayewardene were to hold the office again he would be the 23rd Finance minister, not the first. This can be more clearly seen in List of Presidents of the United States.--Blackknight12 (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Blackknight12, Yes I am well aware of the fact gaps mean that position was vacant, that is due to elections and not because of resignations/retirements/deaths etc. Therefor it would be wise to get rid of the gaps in the page to give it a much better and professional look. If you look at the Minister of Finance (New Zealand) page that there are no gaps, you could see the same in Minister for Finance (Australia), Chancellor of the Exchequer UK pages, or even Ministry of Finance (Netherlands) page. And of the matter of numbering the case with the List of Presidents of the United States is different from this matter I'm well aware that President Grover Cleveland of the United States was president twice non connectively, but this was before the rules were changes in the 1950s now days it is impossible to get that kind of numbering. Another thing is Sri Lanka belongs to the Commonwealth and follows Commonwealth styles in certain things. So relating to this if you looked at the List of Prime Ministers of Australia you will see on the very bottom Kevin Rudd was Prime Minister twice, but he only has one number, 26. So I think it is a much more appropriate way to display things in this page. Furthermore if you look at the finance ministers pages of other countries I posted above you would be able to clearly see most of the don't even have numbers on them and I suggest it would be an even better way and it would avoid much more confusion. --Adhisha4 (talk) 04:50, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is an encyclopaedia, the number one priority is for this article to covey the right information, that is facts and reliability. If it has gaps, then so be it, at least it is honest in conveying that information. The article should not have to "look professional" at the expense of reliability and factual information. This article is nowhere near finished nor does it have enough content on it to even be considered "Professional". This is all secondary and besides the point of wikipedia. (The List of Presidents of the United States article is a well written article that is pretty much finished, hence my use of it as an example.)
This article is a list of people who have held an office from its creation to the present. It being a list, it needs to be organised and therefore numbered (which is the most common and standard way through out Wikipedia). Furthermore all offices and those who hold those offices are numbered and ranked in practised and so it would be expected to be done here as well.
Yes I understand this is an encyclopaedia, and it is very important that the right and reliable information is passed on to the others. having gaps doesn't say much at all it just shows that there is a gap in the article or useless white space in this case, furthermore if the position was vacant most Wikipedia articles mention it is vacant instead of having rows that says nothing in them. And the most important thing is you need to understand the reason behind the post being vacant, it is due to the fact that during that time the parliament is dissolved for elections and the cabinet doesn't have much purpose therefore they might not exist but the person still is the minister until the next person is appointed and it is important to have the correct presentation
In regards to numbering, if you look at the article List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom which is also a well formed article it does not show any numbers on the person and if you look very carefully you will recognise some have held office more than once, or even List of Prime Ministers of the Netherlands. And in articles where they are numbered like List of Prime Ministers of Australia or List of Prime Ministers of New Zealand or even List of Prime Ministers of Canada if the same person has taken the role again in non consecutive terms they still hold the same number. You can also see this in the Sri Lankan Articles of Leader of the Opposition (Sri Lanka) or List of Prime Ministers of Sri Lanka (before you Blackknight12, changed this). The number identifies the person as an individual in this case and not the order of the post. The only places I have see your way of doing things is in are List of Presidents of the United States and the List of Prime Ministers of France (other than what you, Blackknight12 have edited).--Adhisha4 (talk) 04:50, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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