Talk:Miodrag Tomić

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Nick-D (talk · contribs) 01:14, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

"Tomić continued south, successfully transporting the Serbian Government's gold reserves out of Niš and ensuring they did not fall into the hands of the Central Powers." - did he do this with planes? (I presume not given the limited payload of aircraft at the time)

The source doesn't go into detail, but aerial transport is implied. I'm guessing that the gold reserves of a poor country like Serbia weren't very large and the bullion was evacuated on the passenger seat in batches of four or five. Again, I'm only speculating, but the source doesn't go into detail.

Can more be said about Tomić's post-World War I career? The coverage of this seems rather brief.

Tomić is a very obscure figure in many ways, and very little is known about him. Due to this, I thought the article would be a stub or reach start-class at most. However, I was lucky enough to find a series of Serbian news articles written to commemorate the centenary of WWI, which conveniently mention his activities during the war but little else. What's there is there. His obituary mentions where his funeral service would be held and that he was survived by his sister in Yugoslavia. Should I include this info?

- Yes, please do: details like this are useful Nick-D (talk) 06:46, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've mentioned the sister. 23 editor (talk) 16:59, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The copyright details for File:FirstSerbianArmedPlane1915.jpg are not correct - this isn't the work of whoever photographed the photograph. I imagine that the Serbian copyright will have expired by now, and that's the right tag to use.
Likewise, File:Miodrag Tomić.jpg needs evidence that Spomenica Srpskog vojnog vazduhoplovsta was published prior to 1923. Nick-D (talk) 05:18, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've tweaked the licensing. Let me know what you think. 23 editor (talk) 02:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know that File:Miodrag Tomić.jpg was published before 1923, or that its author has been dead for more than 70 years? Nick-D (talk) 06:46, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Spomenica Srpskog vojnog vazduhoplovsta, which certainly wasn't published before 1923 , states that the photo was taken towards the end of World War I. Hence, pre-1923. The photographer is unknown, so I really don't know if the author has been dead for more than 70 years. 23 editor (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately the requirement appears to be that the photo was published before 1923 or its author has been dead for more than 70 years, so I don't think that this is usable I'm afraid Nick-D (talk) 00:12, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I've removed it. 23 editor (talk) 00:49, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm pleased to pass this review. Nick-D (talk) 00:53, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. All the best. 23 editor (talk) 00:57, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mistakes[edit]

This article has serious mistakes, as ″during the Serbian Army's retreat across Albania to the Greek island of Corfu, he evacuated General Petar Bojović from Scutari by plane″, ″became head of the Royal Yugoslav Air Force's pursuit squadron in Novi Sad″ and ″they decided against destroying the Blériot XI and took off the following morning headed for Durrës (it was Farman MF.11 not Blériot)″. Here you can read a reliable source [1]--Свифт (talk) 13:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. Has an appropriate reference section:

B. Citations to reliable sources:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
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"Spomenica" is not a reliable source because it is self-published by Mr. Ognjenović. I've partially reverted your edits. In the future, please don't make such wide-scale changes because it actually ruins the quality of the prose, albeit some of the changes have been copy-edited and left intact. Cheers 23 editor (talk) 02:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]