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A fact from Miss Dior Chérie appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 January 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Christine Nagel (pictured) once created a strawberry-and-popcorn perfume for Dior?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christine Nagel.

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Nagel in 2015

~~... that Swiss perfumer Christine Nagel (pictured) once created a strawberry and popcorn perfume?~~ Example of sources: "Miss Dior Chérie (un sorbet fraise des bois au pop-corn)" / “Miss Dior Chérie, a wild strawberry sorbet with popcorn” (Elle.fr) but sometimes it is referred to as “strawberry leaf”, “Carmelized popcorn”, etc. so I believe the hook is an accurate summary. As for Nagel as creator: “Once she established her authority in the industry (by creating iconic scents like Narciso Rodriguez for Her and Miss Dior Chérie), Nagel caught the attention of Hermès...” The Cut

Reviewed: Faith Smith, Laura’s Ghost

Created by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

For now, I reviewed the person, interesting life on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine, the image is licensed and a great illustration. - I'd prefer if "wild" could be added to the strawberries, but will see after the other to which I'll return later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now the Miss also. Both well told, well sourced, French sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Great image (repeating)! - I wonder about the "once" in the hook, sound a bit like "once-upon-a-time" ;) - also open to mention Dior which most will connect to, - otherwise it could be some obscure Swiss home-made stuff. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda Arendt, for the reviews and the kind words. Very good point about adding Dior—I don’t want readers to think this is the perfume equivalent of an Easy Bake Oven effort! “Once” is there to emphasize this really is exceptional—working at Hermès she doesn’t make anything like this now! (This is in many interviews and should perhaps be incorporated more in the entry.) But I could drop it if need be. Ideally I would like to leave “wild” off, partly because that bolded text is already quite long and I don’t want to draw people too much away from reading about Nagel. Also: “wild” is mainly a product of the marketing, and only some independent sources included the word in their assessment, so just “strawberry” feels like it covers the most RS perspectives. So I would propose:

ALT0b: ... that Swiss perfumer Christine Nagel (pictured) once created a strawberry and popcorn perfume for Dior?

What do you think? Could also drop “Swiss” to make it shorter... Innisfree987 (talk) 23:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I like that, thank you! Or, also avoiding to say perfume twice, and we can play with the particles "Swiss" and "once":

ALT0c: ... that once, Christine Nagel (pictured) created a strawberry and popcorn perfume for Dior?

ALT0d: ... that Christine Nagel (pictured) created the strawberry and popcorn perfume Miss Dior Chérie?

- I almost smell it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh I like ALT0c! Especially with the photograph, saying she is a perfumer is not necessary! Very nice solution, thank you! And I’m delighted the smell is vivid in your mind, since the actual fragrance is unfortunately lost to history and copyright restrictions! Innisfree987 (talk) 00:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]