Talk:Monastery of Saint Elijah

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A fact from Monastery of Saint Elijah appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 July 2008, and was viewed approximately 2,009 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Dair Mar Elia, dating from the 6th century, is the oldest Christian monastery in Iraq?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2008/July.

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Name of this article[edit]

I support the use of Dair Mar Elia as the primary name but suggest it Saint Elijah's Monastery should only be parenthetical in the lead, not in actual name of the article. Saint Elijah's Monastery should redirect here as should Saint John's Monastery or some variant like Saint John's Monastery (Iraq). I don't think a parenthetical name is supported by the WP:MOS. Thoughts?--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 14:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arab from Al-Hirah not Assyrian[edit]

Mar elia al-hiri was not assyrian, he was an arab from Al-Hirah in southern iraq who followed Nestorianism.

Iraq War[edit]

The second-to-last paragraph begins, "After the Iraq War," but the last paragraph dates 2008 which falls within the time period recognized for the Iraq War (2003-2011). Perhaps it means to refer to after the US invasion of Iraq? The Second Gulf War reference is also not clear, and links to a disambiguation page which lists both the Gulf War in 1990-91 and the Iraq War. --Born2flie (talk) 12:15, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Title?[edit]

... given that the lede says "known in English as Saint Elijah's Monastery" title needs a check in WP:RS usage. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NB, issue settled - the Art Newspaper source uses the Saint Elijah Monastery wording. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 15:52, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest Monastery in Iraq[edit]

This article has listed Dair Mar Elia as the oldest monastery in Iraq since it was created, but there are at least two others listed on Wikipedia that predate it. Mar Mattai monastery and Mar Behnam Monastery are both listed as 4th century, while Dair Mar Elia is listed as 6th century. I don't know if the secondary sources calling this the oldest monastery are citing Wikipedia or confusing it with Mar Behnam, which was also destroyed/damaged by ISIS, but it has created a problem. For now, I am changing "oldest" to "one of the oldest", but really, all three articles need some kind of academic sourcing for their founding dates. Torven (talk) 01:33, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 August 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) samee converse 09:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dair Mar Elia → Monastery of Saint Elijah – Few if any evaluated article names from the region retain Arabic translitterated name if English language names are available, do they? PPEMES (talk) 23:02, 25 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support as consistent with the naming of other monasteries in the region. I see no good reason for using a transliterated Arabic name which most readers will not even recognise as meaning Monastery of Saint Elijah. BabelStone (talk) 07:20, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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