Talk:Mooring

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Comment[edit]

Learned about mooring. Thank you. UrbanRez 06:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki fr[edit]

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I just modify this interwiki, i think it's better like this. If you want you can translate Amarrage du futur pour navires de charge et navires à passagers it's about Vacuum system. Have a good week-end. CaptainHaddock 07:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate[edit]

A mooring is not when a ship is at the dock, that's when it is at berth. A mooring ALWAYS refers to when a boat is anchored at bay. Please edit this as it is completely and utterly inaccurate.

69.203.113.138 (talk) 07:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, your assertion is incorrect. See, for example, pages 4-8 to 4-12 of Hayler, William B. (2003). American Merchant Seaman's Manual. Cornell Maritime Pr. ISBN 0-87033-549-9. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help). Haus^Talk 00:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After consulting a number of dictionaries, WordNet, and specialized glossaries, concur with Haus. A vessel is moored when it is fixed in position, either by anchoring itself or by securing itself to a mooring. A mooring may be a buoy that is attached to a permanently emplaced anchor, but a mooring may also be any other sort of deliberate structure (e.g., quay) to which a vessel can be secured. A berth is a designated place at a mooring where a vessel may tie up. See for example "berth (moorings)" and the first picture of "two small marina-type berths". The dock is the mooring; the berths are the places on either side of the mooring where the boats are moored. Belastro (talk) 23:39, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vocabulary[edit]

I think that the above anonymous remark may well be at least half correct. Certainly a ship at anchor in a bay is "moored". I believe, though, that a berthed ship can also be said to be "moored".

But I came here with another question: what is the name for the structure that the hawser is wrapped around on the ship, analogous to a bollard? I realize that it can be a capstan, but what if it has no setup for mechanical rotation? - Jmabel | Talk 06:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lacking prompt answer here, I've also asked at Talk:Bollard. - Jmabel | Talk 16:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answered at Talk:Bollard. Haus^Talk 00:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion[edit]

Removed "is much stronger" from description of wire rope, as Dyneema and Spectra ropes have similar or stronger tensile strengths when compared to wires of similar diameter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.7.34.136 (talk) 15:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mooring scheme[edit]

Can anyone improve the mooring scheme ? Things to improve:

the same lines don't come back in bow or stern variant; eg there is the "forward breast line", but no "forward stern line", there is the "after bow", but no "forward stern", there is the quarter breast line but the same line is mentioned at the back by forward quarter spring line", ...
there are no left and right boulders drawn on the boat (important when mooring with eg left or right wind; the left or right boulders need to be used first depending on this wind and the pier side on which the mooring is done
there is no spring line drawn from stern/bow to the boulder near the top or back respectively (full spring)

Thanks, KVDP (talk) 10:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forward or Head Springs stop forward movement, Back or Aft Springs stop movement aft as taught by the Admiralty for over 100 years and documented in their official publications. thanks, Trooper63 (talk) 05:04, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Different types of moorings[edit]

This page is confusing mooring as an english noun with mooring as an english verb. As a noun a mooring is the "permanent anchor" described in the second part of this page. As a verb mooring refers to any means of attaching a boat to land or the sea bottom other than dropping a portable anchor. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moor

The diagram depicts an uncommon technique for mooring to a dock/wharf. Most small vessels use a bow line, stern line, and two spring lines when tying to a simple dock. In a slip most vessels would use a second bow or second stern line, depending on which end of the vessel is facing open water. Large vessels will almost always attach several spring lines in addition to the six lines depicted.

This page also fails to mention:

"Mediterranean" or "Tahitian" mooring, in which a vessel moors perpendicularly to a dock by dropping an anchor or picking up a "permanent anchor" mooring in addition to tying up.
pile mooring, where a vessel ties to poles driven into the seabed but whose tops are always above the surface.
Two point moorings, where a vessel's alignment is fixed by using two permanent anchors.

I can add a new section describing these techniques with references to Hinz. Does that seem best? Or should all reference to mooring as a verb be removed? Ensslen (talk) 02:56, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

de-article[edit]

Looks like de:Mooring_(Kette) is suitable to the article while the now interwiki-linked de:Anlegemanöver is about the operation, not the structure. --Itu (talk) 19:57, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

legals, eg ownership of moorings[edit]

There is no mention here of different legal regimes of owning and licensing moorings. I specifically came to this page to discover the regime for the tidal thames. I have received conflicting stories from different people in the industry. Eg the Port Of London Authority receives license fees from those who use moorings. They own some moorings but other's are private. How can a mooring be privately owned when the land at the mooring site is publicly owned? Can someone in the know add a section about different mooring legal regimes? Thanks. FreeFlow99 (talk) 14:35, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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