Talk:Mordechai Elon

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Please use English references[edit]

I happened on this and was annoyed to see no English references when a quick news.google search showed lots of english sources from Feburary 2010, and updated material which I then ended up putting in the article. Feel free to use as references ones like the relevant article I put in external links. CarolMooreDC (talk) 18:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why annoyed? Please AGF. There is no problem with using foreign references. And external links is not the right place to put links to news. If you cannot be bothered to edit the article yourself, you should move the links to the discussion page so that someone else might do that work. From experience, I can't see how anyone expects someone else to do 'their' work. --Shuki (talk) 10:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:V#Non-English_sources Because this is the English Wikipedia, English-language sources should be used in preference to non-English ones, except where no English source of equal quality can be found that contains the relevant material. If there are articles in English, why use foreign languages?
Anyway, FYI here's one of many articles in ENglish about the earlier allegations: *Yair Ettinger, Rabbi Elon accused of 'long-term' sexual relationship with student Rabbi Elon accused of 'long-term' sexual relationship with student, Haaretz, February 18, 2010.
One can point out problems with articles without having to fix every one. And I did do work of updating info. CarolMooreDC (talk) 15:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this is nice, but the issue here is not a preference of non-english references, but a lack of editors to insert English ones instead. If you can contribute to the article, that is valiant. But the external links is not a repository of 'see also' news reports. --Shuki (talk) 18:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

MOS:INTRO: "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article..." - Should we be repeating such details "in response to revelations by Takana, a religious forum that was set up to deal with allegations of sexual harassment in the religious Zionist community" etc, which are contained in the main article? Chesdovi (talk) 15:29, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seams important enough to me, not as important as the fact that Elon is an outspoken opponent of homosexuality convicted of having had same sex sexual contact with a minor - though. But admittedly, the "sexual misconduct" section could be more concise. Cheers, Ajnem (talk) 17:24, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why is there more space given in the lead to his conviction than to why he is notable in the first place? The notability of this issue can only be secondary to why he is notable in the first place! That’s why it’s so notable! Trimming is in order. Chesdovi (talk) 17:30, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This article should resemble Yitzhak Mordechai. There is too much detail about Elon's criminal activites. Chesdovi (talk) 11:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree (with the latter sentence). Perhaps there should be more detail about Mordechai's criminal activities. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 15:17, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, maybe a little, but not so it tilts the overall bio, as it does in this article. Chesdovi (talk) 16:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
He is also now notable for being convicted of sexual offences. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, that's why we mention it there. But we need not write about Takana. That is dealt with below. (If this had happened to any odd-bod, there would be no article at all. It is precisely due to his prominence that this is such a cause célèbre. Yet most the article is about this? How odd.) Chesdovi (talk) 22:39, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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