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Anchorage-in-Vineland was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 18 February 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Mortal Engines Quartet. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Jenny Haniver (airship) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 14 February 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Mortal Engines Quartet. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Definitely merge. Merging this into the main article for the books still leaves a very small article. Ling.Nut 07:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i agree with the idea of a merge--Aaronpark 23:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

American Empire and Greater China[edit]

I've removed the following section:

The Future American Empire consists of the USA, Mexico and parts of the Middle East and Caribbean. It comes to an end as it fights a nuclear war with Greater China. Greater China is a fictional Coalition consisting of China, Korea, Japan and Mongolia, under the rule of the Chinese.

These were originally their own articles, and got merged into this, but frankly they shouldn't have existed in the first place. Only vague allusions are made to the "American Empire" and China, and there's nothing to support the fact that, say, Mexico was part of it. Battle Ape 04:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I've read all four of the Hungry City Chronicles, and something confuses me. In the first three books, Shrike is referred to as Grike. Yet in a Darkling Plain, the last novel, he is referred to as Shrike, and no longer Grike...so did I get copies with errors or...?

In the British novels he is referred to as "Shrike," in the American novels (because Americans like to change things for no reason) he is called "Grike." Did you read different versions? Battle Ape 03:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mortal Engines quartet[edit]

Should this be moved to Mortal Engines quartet, because this is the name used on the new British editions. Hungry City Chronicles is the American name and when this aricle was created there probably wasn't another name. James P Twomey 17:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Changed Name[edit]

I changed the name " Hungry City Chronicles" to " Mortal Engines Quartet because it is written by a british author and that is the british name. Does anyone know how to change the name of the articles, by the way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.105.116 (talk) 10:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have also changed the name Grike back to Shrike, as this is his authored name from the original British version. Cooper 25 (talk) 18:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Film[edit]

It says this under the Film heading in the article:
"The film rights of the series have been sold. There will be two movies, one combining Mortal Engines and Predator's Gold, and the other combining Infernal Devices and A Darkling Plain."
And it references this article:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117951893.html?categoryid=1246&cs=1
But when you actually read the article referenced it is clear that the film rights have not yet been sold to any movie companies. It is just that Scholastic bought the film rights to the series and intends to sell them, but unless there is more information out there on this, it appears that the film rights haven't yet been sold to anyone who could actually make a movie. So if this one reference is the basis for this section, it really shouldn't be there at all.

Actually, the source is Variety which is a very reliable source. So Deborah Forte is likely to begin work on them and as they say she is determined, they are likely to be made (which is a shame as I hated what happened to the Golden Compass). Even if the books aren't combined it is still likely they will be made.119.12.66.225 (talk) 02:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now I'm not sure if the Scholastic Media Foundation are involved, so I changed it.121.91.186.153 (talk) 23:03, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fever Crumb[edit]

Surely we should have a part about it. It is a part of the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.91.21.79 (talk) 09:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comic?[edit]

There might be a comic. Philip Reeve himself said so on his own site. Nothing is official yet, but I still think it deserves to get mentioned.

See [1].119.12.178.97 (talk) 22:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Enviromental status[edit]

I can see several references to enviroment. For instance, the blue whale is extinct. We destroy ourselves. --CrabFreak (talk) 16:38, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mass deletion of articles[edit]

Please note the following:

Nominations are broadly this:

"Plot element from a series of novels, not independently notable (WP:GNG) for lack of substantial third party coverage. Not appropriate for a merger, as it consists only of excessive plot summary (WP:WAF). "

Once again, we see the simple deletion argument put forward against fiction-related articles (Brian Jacques' Redwall went the same way recently), that WP doesn't cover fiction. Yet again, this is targeted at a non-US series without a Hollywood film to raise its profile. Can anyone imagine this same nomination being made of Reaver (Firefly), an article with equally little out of universe coverage.

We also see that a bulk deletion on the same basis is boiler-plated across 10 deletions, another handy tactic for diluting opposition to them. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Undiscussed rename from Mortal Engines Quartet to Predator Cities[edit]

Any sourcing for this? Is this a UK or US name? Also why wasn't this fairly serious, and certainly contentious, rename discussed beforehand? Andy Dingley (talk) 09:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is, and was, sourcing right there in the article - note reference 1 [2]. Perhaps you overlooked it? Also the author's own site confirms it: [3].

The Predator Cities series title is a good move, I think, and this is a good time to make the change as the series will be re-published in the USA next month, too...If I'd set out to write more than one book when I started Mortal Engines I expect I would have come up with a series title back then, and perhaps it has been a handicap to the books that they didn't have one. Also, it was always my intention that the Fever Crumb books would be a separate series with a slightly different feel, so it makes sense to split them off from Predator Cities. Perhaps the Fever books will end up with a series title of their own one day. (Of course, the chances of me actually remembering to call them Predator Cities after thinking of them as The Mortal Engines Quartet for ten years, are minimal.)

...the rename was WP:BOLDly done because, as the author himself has renamed the series and approved of the change, there seemed to be nothing contentious about it. I've added the author blog link to the article as an additional ref. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. As it was only renamed officially a couple of weeks ago, I'm not surprised I hadn't noticed it yet. As it is well-sourced from the author, then I'd agree with your bold rename. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem!

- The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:27, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How does Bevis die?[edit]

In the summary of book 1, it states "Katherine and Bevis conspire to plant a bomb to destroy MEDUSA, but are caught in their attempt and Bevis gets shot and killed by the Engineers." However, in the very next paragraph it states "Katherine travels up to the Top Tier to Saint Paul's Cathedral, with Bevis disguised as her captor. [...] Tom is attacked by the 13th Floor Elevator above London and shoots it down. Bevis is killed when the airship crushes him." I've never read the novels, so I can't offer the correct explanation, but surely only one of these is correct. Horse Battery (talk) 11:14, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]