Talk:Motor Launch

Fairmile B

I have copied some information here about Fairmile B to Fairmile B motor launch--Geronimo20 06:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Launch (boat)

The page for Launch (boat) has almost no information on launches other than the fact that they aren't necessarily British Navy vessels. I really think these two pages should be merged and one page be a subsection on the other. Jkar (talk) 15:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

MLs are a quite specific military type of launch, perhaps it would be better to expand the Launch (boat) page to include more types of launch? --jmb (talk) 16:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 20 October 2013

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The result of the move request was: Discussion moved to Talk:Motor Gun Boat#Requested move 20 October 2013. All six discussions are in regards to WP:CAPSACRS; best to centralize the discussions so that six separate discussions are not happening. Steel1943 (talk) 07:48, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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Motor Launch → Motor launch – We don't capitalise acronyms when written in full (see WP:CAPSACRS) and we don't capitalise the article names of types of ship (eg destroyer escort, aircraft carrier, river gunboat, torpedo boat, torpedo boat destroyer, and so on). The general guidance at Wikipedia is "Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization". I have also proposed this change at Motor Torpedo Boat, Motor Gun Boat, Steam Gun Boat and Coastal Motor Boat. Shem (talk) 16:52, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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• oppose all (although I'm unfamiliar with Steam Gun Boat). These are not the simple combinations of words as for aircraft carrier etc., but they are proper noun phrases, supported as such by the many relevant sources, and so should be treated and capitalised as such. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:05, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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The discussion is being conducted at Talk:Motor Gun Boat. Shem (talk) 21:45, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

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Two articles on motor launch?

Motor launch redirects to Launch (boat), which as noted above has little overlap with Motor Launch. If these really are different topics, it would be better to distinguish them by more than a capital letter. If Motor Launch is about a particular class of military motor launches, then Motor launch (military boat) or something like that would make more sense. If it's intended to be only about the British MLs, then something that indicates that. Ideas? Dicklyon (talk) 00:47, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

• Motor Launch is correct, for a specific class of Royal Navy boats, as is motor launch as a simple redirect to launch (boat).

But you already know this, yet you have zero interest in accuracy, rather than your own bias to strip capitalisation from every article. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:39, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

What I know is that distinguishing these topics by a dubious case distinction seems like a bad idea. You have no better one? Dicklyon (talk) 02:39, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

• We should use the correct names. They are Motor Launch; also launch (boat) is reasonable, but motor launch might be preferred. Andy Dingley (talk) 03:06, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Fairmile B Motor Launch

RN motor boat (on the port stern davit)

Closed. – Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Motor Launch. Dicklyon (talk) 04:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

That discussion is now archived, so I am going to comment here: On general principles of encyclopedic organization "Motor Launch" should be taken as a synonym for Motor launch, i.e. a launch powered by a motor; so both titles should redirect to Launch (boat). To do otherwise is just confusing for non-expert readers. However, the phrase does refer to a distinct type of military vessel, and (I think, from a cursory scan) no one has argued that the existing article on that topic should be merged. Instead, I suggest renaming this article with a disambiguation, such as Motor Launch (Royal Navy), and retargeting the redirect Motor Launch after incoming links have been changed. Additionally "Motor Launch" in this article should be consistently capitalised, and mentions of police or other civilian "motor launches" removed as off topic. Hairy Dude (talk) 04:05, 30 March 2020 (UTC)