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Should Earth-12041 stay on the list as a notable universe?

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Not only this universe is being dropped by Disney as a new Spider Man series has arrived, it never had taken seriously its own continuity or itself for that matter, being Agents of S.M.A.S.H. the worst at that or with crossovers like the one with the Disney live-action show, Jeese. Also, despite their long run, they weren't as memorable as other shows, unlike Earth-92131 (Marvel Animated) that had even "spawned" a new series over 20 years later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.78.194.72 (talk) 22:08, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, a couple of those links don't work. That cancels out a lot of your evidence. Second, the universe isn't 'ending', currently, as Avengers Assemble and the Guardians of the Galaxy animated series have each been renewed for another season. There is also a few Marvel universes on this list that aren't ongoing, so I'm not understanding your point. Especially the part about not taking its continuity seriously. Marvel has made numerous retcons and personality changes, some subtle or extremely noticeable, through it's 60+ years. When many of the numerous writers are involved in a small portion of hundreds of stories, things will get muddled at times.
"Not as memorable" is extremely difficult to prove factually as well since, again, the same can be said for a few of the listings. I can't guarantee most people will remember Marvel's "New Universe", but it was an imprint with a lot of history behind it which, I assume, earned its spot on the list. If we're talking about what importance Earth-12041's has in this list, I would argue that the amount of stories told (300+ episodes from four different shows, 100+ tie-in comics including digital, etc.) and the fact that it has been Marvel's main universe for their animation division in the last five years are enough to make it seem "important". I don't think audience reaction or nostalgia should dictate how "memorable", unless Marvel had not focused one of their divisions on it over a certain period of time. --BlindmelonKen (talk) 21:27, 7 November 2017 (UTC)BlindmelonKen[reply]

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Cleanup needed

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I've tagged this article for clean-up for three main reasons.

  1. It includes no real history to place it in context - when was the phrase "Marvel Multiverse" first used in Marvel comics, and by whom, is an absolute basic for any article like this, preferably with some references to writers, storylines etc. that have used the concept.
  2. It needs more citations from notable third-party sources, otherwise it looks like something off a fan wiki.
  3. That table. No-one, but no-one, is reading it and even fewer finding it useful because people are just chucking any bit of trivia in. Five examples should do it; I'd lean towards 616, the Ultimate universe for its' longevity, whichever one was the first to be introduced and named "Earth-whatever" in that actual story and not through some guidebook retcon years later, one for a film franchise as an example (maybe the Fox X-Men films for their longevity) and maybe one for a cartoon. Wikipedia is not a place for a screen-filling list of names Kurt Busiek gave the Avengers for two issues in 1998.

I feel like I'm shouting a lot on a lot of these pages recently but my God as a comics fan is some of this stuff embarrassing. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 18:02, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

there's also an innacuracy as the article claims that the designation Earth-616 first appeared "in the pages of Captain Britain", implying a comic called Captain Britain, when in fact the story was first published in Mighty World of Marvel, an anthology book which included Alan Moore's Captain Britain stories among others (as correctly noted here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Britain) 82.11.254.28 (talk)
82.11.254.28 (talk) 20:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One thing I don't get

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Since the multiverse contains all possibilities, how is it ever going to be, you know, okay? Won't some of it always be pretty screwed up? If you're going to spend time agonizing over something like that, you may as well forget everything else, right? Except you can't, because it is everything else, isn't it? Just saying, though. – AndyFielding (talk) 06:55, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TRN numbers

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TRNs are not official reality designations and should not be used in this article. They were created by the Marvel Fandom site, which states "The Temporary Reality Numbers (TRN for short) are a system used by the Marvel Database for the categorization of alternate realities which have not yet received an official numeric designation by Marvel. Please note that TRNs are entirely unofficial designations, and should not be used outside the Marvel Database." Zuckyd1 (talk) 15:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]