Talk:Nacotchtank

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Untitled[edit]

Hi, I will be editing this article! I am adding in some sources here on the talk page that I am possibly going to use as I begin thoroughly revising the article. ^[1] ^[2] ^[3] ^[4] ^[5] ^[6] ^[7] ^[8] ^[9] ^[10] Peterpietri (talk) 19:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Burr, Charles R. (1920). "A Brief History of Anacostia, Its Name, Origin and Progress". Records of the Columbia Historical Society, Washington, D.C. 23: 167-179. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ "Indigenous Tribes of Washington, D.C." American Library Association. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ "Before the White House". The White House Historical Association. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ Mason, Otis T; McGee, W J; Wilson, Thomas; Proudfit, S. V.; Holmes, W. H.; Reynols, Elmer R.; Mooney, James (July 1889). "The Aborigines of the District of Columbia and the Lower Potomac - A Symposium, under the Direction of the Vice President of Section D". American Anthropologist. 2 (3): 225-268. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ Hedgpeth, Dana. "A Native American tribe once called D.C. home. It's had no living members for centuries". The Washington Post. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ "Native Peoples of Washington, DC". National Park Service. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ Williams, Brett (June 2001). "A River Runs Through Us". A River Runs through Us. 103 (2): 409-431. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ Barbour, Philip L. (July 1971). "The Earliest Reconnaissance of the Chesapeake Bay Area: Captain John Smith's Map and Indian Vocabulary". The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography. 79 (3): 280-302. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ Trocolli, Ruth; Powell, Eric A. (November 2009). "Inside the Beltway". Archaeology. 62 (6): 16. Retrieved 4 October 2020.
^ MacCord, Howard A. (December 1957). "Archeology of the Anacostia Valley of Washington, D. C., and Maryland". Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences. 47 (12): 393-397. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 August 2020 and 11 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Peterpietri.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 04:48, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Feminist (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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... that Nacotchtank villages had menstrual huts, which women in the tribe would visit when menstruating?
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by Peterpietri (talk). Self-nominated at 22:17, 22 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Note: Nominator is a WikiEd student editor

@Peterpietri: Great work with this article. Unless I am mistaken, it appears that the expansion falls short of the requirement of 5x readable prose. Looks like it was about 5K on 22 November and is 17K today. Let me know if I am missing something. Also pending a QPQ review. Otherwise, article is cited to RS, neutral, well-written and hook is interesting and cited. —Al Ameer (talk) 16:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article was expanded 5x total, but beginning in October. Unfortunately, it has not been expanded enough recently to qualify, and now that it is the 29th, expanding it more now wouldn't help. This seems like a great candidate for WP:GA and I encourage the nominator to continue working on it and submit it there. Once it passes and is promoted to Good Article status, it can be renominated for DYK within seven days. Thanks for the hard work! Footlessmouse (talk) 23:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Footlessmouse, if someone nominates on time—and the entire expansion began November 22, the date this was nominated, not in October, which were edits by someone else and not part of the current expansion—we allow them the opportunity to complete the expansion to 5x if they can do so in a reasonable period after being informed of the shortfall. In this case, the article was 5191 prose characters prior to expansion, which needs it has to expand fivefold to 25955 prose characters. At the moment, it's over halfway there, at 17172, so another 8783 prose characters will be needed. Peterpietri, do you think you'll be able to further expand the article by that much? Please let us know either way. Many thanks, and congratulations on the work you've put into the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:08, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator is a student editor who is editing as part of a course that ends on the 12th. In addition, they haven't edited since the day they nominated this. Given that there's still one week to go until the course ends and the article issues appear surmountable, I'm pinging the relevant course people (@Carwil, KellieCavagnaro, Ian (Wiki Ed), and Helaine (Wiki Ed):) to try and contact the student in the hopes that they may be able to return. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:22, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator has been unable to return to Wikipedia and the course ends today. Marking for closure as an abandoned nomination. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:52, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Error about White House artifacts; Article name should be changed[edit]

Hello,

I am not adept at editing in wiki, so I'd appreciate help from a current editor on this page to make the following corrections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacotchtank

In the Geography section, paragraph 3:

"Proudfit studied the excavation that was performed when the swimming pool was being constructed in the White House, which is relatively inland from any of the Nacotchtank river settlements. Analysis of the terrain that was dug up proved indigenous existence on the site, with findings such as quartzite points, a broken biface, and fragments of broken pottery."

Proudfit was not involved with the White House artifacts. They were found in 1975 and 1976. Proudfit was born in 1846, died in the early 1900s. As noted in the text of this current citation (Chambers & Humphrey, 1985, see below), Robert Marshall, a curator with the National Park Service found one artifact in the swimming pool debris, which led to the screening of the debris to reveal 17 pieces of stone artifacts and pottery. An estimate of their age suggests they were made about 2000 years in the past. Those Natives would be the ancestors of the Anacostan tribe (the better name for the tribe, see below).

Chambers, Mary Elizabeth; Humphrey, Robert L. (1985). "Ancient Washington: American Indian Cultures of the Potomac Valley". GW Washington Studies. 6: 30.

I have a previous post in this talk section about the tribe name. The title of this wiki post is "Nacotchtank," one of the many variations on the original name on the Smith map, "Nacotchtanck." The map makers seem to have misheard the Natives. When Fr. Andrew White studied Piscataway in the 1630s, he clarified the origens of the tribe name: anacosh-tanik, as the current summary mentions. But he wasn't trying to "latinize" the word.

As a recent observation about how quickly the map name dropped from use - The 1666 Articles of Peace and Amity name the tribe, Anacostanck. The map name wasn't used. This blog entry discusses the tribe name in detail. http://nativevillagemarker.blogspot.com/2023/04/in-1666-treaty-anacostaub-was-used-as.html The common error of starting with the map name, which I originally made, and this wiki entry is perpetuating, is addressed in that post.

Thanks for any help!

Armand

http://onceasitwasdc.org/ Armandlione (talk) 13:42, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Burr, Charles R. (1920). "A Brief History of Anacostia, Its Name, Origin and Progress". Records of the Columbia Historical Society, Washington, D.C. 23: 167-179. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[2] "Indigenous Tribes of Washington, D.C." American Library Association. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[3] "Before the White House". The White House Historical Association. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[4] Mason, Otis T; McGee, W J; Wilson, Thomas; Proudfit, S. V.; Holmes, W. H.; Reynols, Elmer R.; Mooney, James (July 1889). "The Aborigines of the District of Columbia and the Lower Potomac - A Symposium, under the Direction of the Vice President of Section D". American Anthropologist. 2 (3): 225-268. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[5] Hedgpeth, Dana. "A Native American tribe once called D.C. home. It's had no living members for centuries". The Washington Post. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[6] "Native Peoples of Washington, DC". National Park Service. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[7] Williams, Brett (June 2001). "A River Runs Through Us". A River Runs through Us. 103 (2): 409-431. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[8] Barbour, Philip L. (July 1971). "The Earliest Reconnaissance of the Chesapeake Bay Area: Captain John Smith's Map and Indian Vocabulary". The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography. 79 (3): 280-302. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[9] Trocolli, Ruth; Powell, Eric A. (November 2009). "Inside the Beltway". Archaeology. 62 (6): 16. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

[10] MacCord, Howard A. (December 1957). "Archeology of the Anacostia Valley of Washington, D. C., and Maryland". Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences. 47 (12): 393-397. Retrieved 4 October 2020.

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