Talk:National and ethnic cultures of Utah

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This is a work on progress. In a few days it will have its major components in place. It can become a rather long article because of the many national and ethnic groups in Utah. Eventually, separate articles can be done for the major groups.

Comments and additions are certainly welcome. 21 November 2007.

Hi, I noticed that somebody put a note on this page, but I do not see it now. It was a reminder about better formatting the text. Please put it again because it has been lost. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrian Comollo (talk • contribs) 23:36, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Addressing the subjectivity problem

Hello, I think that this article is mostly written from an objective and neutral point of view. I agree that a couple of paragrapfs were subjective, but i have eliminated them, so i hope that now is according to the standards, Adrian Comollo (talk) 23:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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A Modern Rewrite

Hello Wikipedians,

I've flagged this page as in need of revision, with a particular eye on maintaining an objective viewpoint. I have removed several instances of editorialization "e.g.: National and ethnic cultures are a big part of diversity in any state and city, because they are the result of thousands of years of traditions and civilization. There is no easy substitute for these cultural treasures. In today's always increasing globalized economy, people are better prepared for its challenges if they are exposed to a variety of different cultures.", where the sentiment is appreciable, but objectivity is not maintained.

There are a number of stylistic changes that require significant overhaul to modern standards such as the term "blacks" as well as some "flair" that comes off as a stereotyping and exoticizing "They lived in their humble but colorful Chinatowns"--are these adjectives strictly necessary to convey the fact that there were Chinatowns in Utah? I'm not convinced.

There is a general trend here that the groups of European origin are described in more objective language, citing specific population statistics, years, and cultural contributions, whereas the groups of African, Asian, and Indigenous American origin are described in terms of their disenfranchisement, but with curious omissions, such as the non-mention of Utah's status as a slave state in the section on African American Utahns. It may be the case that non-White cultural contributions to Utah's culture are poorly attested in the literature, but at the very least, there is a way of tweaking the language here to treat all ethnicities involved with the same impartiality and fairness in reporting their histories.

I've been looking at the History of Utah, Hispanics and Latinos in Utah, and History of African Americans in Utah as examples of clean, well-cited histories of the various peoples of Utah, and I would like this article to approach the same standards if it is to serve as a hub to them.

In service of this, I am flagging this page as potentially containing systemic bias, even if it appears as though it is written in good faith, with general sympathies to the marginalized. Likewise, I am marking it for tone.

Snarkticfox (talk) 23:49, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]