Talk:National symbols of India
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Father of the nation
[edit]Is the father of the nation a "national symbol"?. I dont find him in the govt list.--Sodabottle (talk) 09:34, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- National symbol is a symbol which represents the country and is officially recognized by the government. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 09:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Copyvio
[edit]I've tagged this as copyvio as complete sections (three that I checked) were from other sources. I will list this at the copyvio board for deeper investigation and cleanup. For now, the sections I've identified as copyvio are:
- National Aquatic Animal is from here
- National Tree is from here
- National Heritage Animal is partly from here
—SpacemanSpiff 10:00, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Spaceman. I have asked User:Sodabottle to guide/help User:Vibhijain on copyright issues -- Tinu Cherian - 10:29, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Copy vio things r fixed now. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 11:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but no, the text is still copyvio for many parts (and I'm only comparing the two sections above that still stand in the article, not the other sections which need similar review), and Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing for the rest. You have changed a few words, but that doesn't solve the problem. e.g. "This mammal is also said to represent the purity of the holy Ganga as it can only survive in pure and fresh water." was changed by you to "This animal is said to represent the purity of the Ganges as it can only survive in pure and fresh water."; this still does not meet our requirements of paraphrasing the source to the words of our editors. You can use the source for information, but the information has to be arranged in your own words and not follow the source text either in entirety or closely. —SpacemanSpiff 12:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
DoneI have fixed that also. All the other content has been taken from Wikipedia itself. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 13:28, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Not done, sorry. It's still WP:Close paraphrasing. Also, you have only attempted to fix the issues I've highlighted so far, there are other similar problems within the article. —SpacemanSpiff 14:58, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- I have tried to change it, but still if it is a violation, please correct it yourself, take it as a request. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 15:08, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Not done, sorry. It's still WP:Close paraphrasing. Also, you have only attempted to fix the issues I've highlighted so far, there are other similar problems within the article. —SpacemanSpiff 14:58, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Copy vio things r fixed now. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 11:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Proposal: Since this is a highly visible article, I propose to a version where copyvio sections are removed but others are retained. --Redtigerxyz Talk 15:15, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- But that's exactly the purpose of the review, I just looked again a few minutes back when I responded and the section I looked at -- Tiger was a copy from the source. So if someone goes through the process of checking all sections for copyvios and removing/blanking them then that's fine. The other alternative is to revert to an earlier version which did not have these problems (and this might be a better option IMO, but I didn't want to do it as the newer version seems to have better flow). —SpacemanSpiff 15:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- We can make this a plain table instead of one with text. (till the copyvio issues get resolved)--Sodabottle (talk) 15:47, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- That option's fine too, but then we shouldn't revert back to the copyvio/derivative versions. Instead a bottoms-up build up of the content. Unfortunately copyvio issues are quite complex...—SpacemanSpiff 15:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- I've asked the copyright queen to comment on this to find a quick way forward. There are three issues here: (1) Blatant copyright violations (copying content from external sources directly), (2) Close paraphrasing from external sources (copying significant material while changing a few words), and (3) Unattributed copy-paste from other Wikipedia articles. To fix the article, these three issues have to be attended to. The other alternatives are to (a) revert to a prior version without these problems, and (b) create a bottoms-up version afresh. —SpacemanSpiff 16:17, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- I think its best we revert to a version without copyvios for the time being, and Vibhijain could probably work on a draft of it, and we could replace it after he finishes working on it. Lynch7 16:42, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Is this version believed to be clean? If so, it should be acceptable to restore it while other issues are worked out. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Fine by me in terms of copyvio problems, but that one has a whole host of other issues -- mainly OR but that can be culled easily. However, there should be an understanding that the current version shouldn't be restored. So, if anyone else doesn't have a problem with that version, feel free to restore it and cull down the list to sourced content. —SpacemanSpiff 18:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- I've restored it just because it evidently doesn't have copyright problems. It should be a much simpler matter to strip it down to sourced content or build it up with copyvio free content. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Fine by me in terms of copyvio problems, but that one has a whole host of other issues -- mainly OR but that can be culled easily. However, there should be an understanding that the current version shouldn't be restored. So, if anyone else doesn't have a problem with that version, feel free to restore it and cull down the list to sourced content. —SpacemanSpiff 18:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Is this version believed to be clean? If so, it should be acceptable to restore it while other issues are worked out. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- I think its best we revert to a version without copyvios for the time being, and Vibhijain could probably work on a draft of it, and we could replace it after he finishes working on it. Lynch7 16:42, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- We can make this a plain table instead of one with text. (till the copyvio issues get resolved)--Sodabottle (talk) 15:47, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
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Link number 6 and 7 do not authenticate that Mohun Bagan is the national club of India. Link 6 is only about postage stamp and link 7 does not exist.
So please remove Mohun Bagan as there is no Government recognition to this matter.
Thank you very much.
78.149.18.189 (talk) 11:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- done. The correct hindu link was this and it doesnt support the assertion--Sodabottle (talk) 11:59, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
National animal
[edit]'Panthera tigris' is 'tiger' (all tigers) and Bengal tiger is 'Panthera tigris tigris' - a subspecies of tiger. So, india's national animal has to be ' Tiger -Panthera tigris' or Bengal tiger -Panthera tigris tigris' ; definitely cannot be 'Bengal tiger -panthera tigris'. Its very ridiculous.
Kindly administrator fixed it, either ' Tiger -Panthera tigris' or Bengal tiger -Panthera tigris tigris'
Merge
[edit]The pages Emblems of Indian states, Symbols of States of India and National symbols of India#States and Union Territories Emblems should be merged with each other as they all deals with same thing.--Ujjwal234goel (talk) 13:55, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Done --Varun ☎ 08:31, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Where is Bihar??
[edit]You guys didn't forget Bihar? 70.39.186.5 (talk) 08:50, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Done. Thanks! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:21, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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- From Cinema of India: "INDIAN FEATURE FILMS CERTIFIED DURING THE YEAR 2018". Film Federation of India. 6 May 2019.
- From Bollywood: "Indian Feature Films Certified During The Year 2017". Film Federation of India. 31 March 2017. Archived from the original on 24 November 2018. Retrieved 25 November 2017.
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