Talk:Nazran okrug

-skiy vs -sky

Hi WikiEditor1234567123, I saw in one of your recent edits that you changed "Nazranovskiy" to "Nazranovsky" in the article. My concern is that WP:RUS tells us that "In names of people and adjectives of Russian origin" to use "y" for "ий", but for a "Noun or of non-Russian origin" to use "iy". If we look at the eponym of the Nazranovskiy Okrug, it derives from the city Nazran, whose RuWiki etymology section indicates that it's named after the town's folk legends settler, Nyasar. Based on this, do you think it'd be more appropriate to use the "iy" ending? Best, – Olympian ^loquere 09:56, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Yeah it seems that it will be more appropriate to use the "iy" ending if the name Nazran really comes from the town's folk legends' settler, Nyasar. Similarly, I made an article "Ingushskiy Okrug" where I also used the "iy" ending and as it looks, it's more correct than "y" ending as the origin of exonym Ingush comes from the Ingush village of Angusht. When renaming the article, I also changed "okrug" to "Okrug", so I wanted to hear your opinion incase you weren't in favor of that, isn't it more correct to write Okrug with a capital letter in the word "Nazranovskiy okrug"? WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 10:22, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm glad that we could come to an agreement regarding "skiy" and "sky". Regarding the capitalisation of "Okrug", I requested clarification in MOS but the response was not as decisive as I'd hoped for. I also discussed this issue with another user, inconclusively; as I mentioned in that discussion, the vilayets RM and WP:NCCAPS seem to justify rendering okrug/uezd/oblast in lowercase, but there is significant friction due to the rationale that the article title (e.g Nazranovskiy Okrug) is a proper noun and thus necessitates title case capitalisation. Let me know your thoughts. – Olympian ^loquere 12:16, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

I just read the discussions you had with the users and it somewhat looks like a complicated topic with both sides having made good points. I personally think that the okrug in Nazranovskiy okrug should be written with a capital letter O as it's proper noun. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 13:07, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Generally I would agree that it's a proper noun too, however, I've seen numerous reliable sources that keep the okrug/uezd in lowercase and also italicise it. Вообще, since the title "Nazranovskiy okrug" is entirely transliterated from Russian, I don't see why "Nazranovskiy" shouldn't be italicised too per MOS. – Olympian ^loquere 01:14, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Bibliography

• Hovannisian, Richard G. (1996a). The Republic of Armenia: From London to Sèvres, February–August 1920. Vol. 3. Berkeley: University of California Press. ISBN 978-0520088030.

GA nomination

Hello WikiEditor1234567123, your expansion of this article has been remarkable, well done! with all the sections you've added, I'd say it's nearly ready to become a Good Article nominee. I can keep expanding the lead and other sections – do you think we can add some information about Ingush before the Russian Empire annexed the region, perhaps borrowing some sentences from Ingush people#Middle_Ages or Ingush people#Contacts with Russian Empire? Keen to hear your thoughts. Best, – Olympian ^loquere 03:29, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello! It still needs some expanding before being nominated. I don't think it's necessary to add background information about Ingush as this article is focused on the district. Best regards, WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 09:17, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Certainly. Also, I think Revenue should be made a subheading within the "Economy" section, rather than its own section. Otherwise, it's looking good so far. What other sections do you intend to expand? Best, – Olympian ^loquere 10:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Sure, revenue section can be made a subheading within economy section. I intend to expand the history and economy sections, and create infrastructure section incase I find sources. Best regards, WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 10:36, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good. I've added a list of settlements based on the Kavkazskiy kalendar for 1915 (its data is based on the year 1914), I'd appreciate if you could try adding wikilinks for the settlements, even if their articles only exist on Russian or Ingush Wikipedia. Moreover, I've reworded the administrative divisions section and deleted some redundant subheadings. I've seen sources refer to участки as prefectures so I thought that was a reliable translation to lean on, rather than confusing English-speaking readers with an obscure transcription. I'd also appreciate if you could help me in applying this style/rewording to other articles that contain such uchastok tables. Best – Olympian ^loquere 14:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Sure, I will my best in helping you. WikiEditor^123… 17:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I also found and added a list of rural communities from the Kavkazskiy kalendar for 1917, you can view it in the cited pages. I think this configuration with prefectures and rural communities is best for every uezd/okrug/otdel's administrative divisions section as it gives readers the entire overview the subdivision's administrative hierarchy. I also added Russian translations to help the reader should they want to search up that rural community in the book and discover which settlements they contained. – Olympian ^loquere 02:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Olympian! I nominated the article for GA as I think it's ready. If you don't mind, could you please do some copy editing? Thanks in advance. Best regards, WikiEditor^123… 20:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Thanks for nominating the article. I will begin copy-editing shortly. Best, – Olympian ^loquere 03:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)