Talk:Neil Parish

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Hockaday, James (29 April 2022). "Wikipedia page of MP accused of watching porn at work changed within seconds". Metro. Retrieved 29 April 2022.

"Whip suspended" as jargon[edit]

'Whip suspended' is a commonly understood phrase - does it need explanation? There's 28 other articles that use the phrase without explanation. AlecStewart (talk) 16:41, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have to disagree, as a non-British reader I'm not at all sure what had the Conservative whip suspended/Parish had the Conservative whip withdrawn means. I think it means that the post/task of "whip" was taken from Parish because he was (accused of) watching porn, but the wording is hard to understand (not "whip" per se, I get that). It sounds like Parish had the porn-watcher suspended.

And I have closely followed the careers of Jim Hacker, Francis Urquhart and Alan Beresford B'Stard, so I know British politics. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As an Australian, I find the phrasing completely opaque. I also thought that he had had the ‘Whip’ (which is a person in our parliament) suspended, not that he had been suspended. --Jonathan O'Donnell (talk) 09:29, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gareth Griffith-Jones, can you write this in an acceptable way we understand? Lead and Pornography investigation section. Gråbergs Gråa Sång 10:15, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ Grabs. Over the past eleven years of my editing Wikipedia, I have avoided subscribing to any topical subject. Sorry dear friend, but I cannot get involved here. Wishing you a good week,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) (contribs) 09:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whip suspended is a common well understood ubiquitous expression in UK politics. Rustygecko (talk) 21:43, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That may be so. Based on me not easily understanding it, I think it's not easily understood by a significant part of the en-WP readers. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A whip and suspenders is never a good look, especially for an incumbent Tory MP. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:19, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've actually seen at least part of that film. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:25, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"In April 2022 BBC Parliament began broadcasting in HD TV, initially only on the Virgin Media platform." But I'm not sure Parish was Caught on Camera. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Politician?[edit]

Should he not be called "Farmer and politician" as he was a farmer before during and after his political career? Rustygecko (talk) 21:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree. Soon to become former politician I guess. Unless perhaps he decides to stand at the 2022 Tiverton and Honiton by-election on a pro-tractor ticket? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Rustygecko: in fact, Parish has tended to self-identify as "a farmer" first (he's also one of a few MPs who mostly represent the farming lobby) so a suitable reference should be easy to find.

Martinevans123: I doubt he'd get any traction even with pro-tractor voters: it might just be a protracter of his suffering TBH ;)

Llew Mawr (talk) 16:27, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How long have you had those terrible puns brewing?? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:48, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I love obscure puns were esp. where I also learn something. We really should have a Wikipedia: Pun of the Day. Llew Mawr (talk) 00:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have added "farmer". Martinevans123 (talk) 08:53, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

per MOS:INTRO "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article" - the intro claims he is a farmer, but the whole article only says he was one when he was 16, which was 40 years ago. If he still is a farmer, and has been one for the intervening time, the article body should say that, and should provide references to support such claims. I appreciate that "he is a farmer" isn't a controversial assertion "likely to be challenged" (per WP:BLPSOURCE), but it's acutely relevant to his current situation, and it's poor form that we're making that claim in the introductory sentence of the article without any evidence that it's true. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 11:13, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As we all know, being an MP is (supposed to be) a full-time job. So maybe "former farmer" would be better e.g. The Times, Evening Standard, The Independent, his own website. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:23, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth[edit]

The FreeBMD page for registration of his birth is this one, showing third quarter 1956. Companies House also have him born in May 1956. Some other sources which give a date of 26 May include: Who's Who, europarl.europa.eu, and parallelparliament.co.uk. 26 May 1956 is also given at List of United Kingdom MPs by seniority (2017–2019) --Martinevans123 (talk) 14:07, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the sources. Who's Who's UK is considered generally unreliable per WP:RSP so can't really use that. Thought I think europarl.europa.eu site you thinked is reliable enough for the infomation cited but not certain. Spy-cicle💥 ^Talk? 23:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'm not sure why europarl.europa.eu should be considered any less reliable than any official UK government source. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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You need to add ‘tractors’ to his interests. 80.229.153.159 (talk) 12:03, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 💜 melecie talk - 12:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It seems he has a "specialised interest" only in certain types of tractor. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:15, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2022[edit]

Neil Parish has now been appointed to an office of profit under the crown, and as such is no longer an MP, effective today. The sidebar has already been edited to reflect this, but the lead paragraph is still worded as if he's currently an MP ("who has been Member of Parliament (MP) for Tiverton and Honiton since 2010"). Please edit the lead paragraph to reflect that he is, as of 4 May 2022, no longer an MP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thecarterclan1 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noticed this has been done, but the top of the infobox still has the title MP next to his name, which needs removing 1234567jack (talk) 13:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done Polyamorph (talk) 14:12, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And he can no longer be the incumbent Chair of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee, can he? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]