Talk:Nemanja Vidić

Nemanja Vidić Sources and Legacy in Lead

There is an ongoing edit war I am attempting to end between Spirit Fox99 and myself, which is currently taking place on Nemanja Vidić's Wikipedia article.

Currently, as of the last edit that they rolled back to, the article states the following in the lead, concerning his legacy, that he:

"is considered as one of the greatest defenders in the history of the sport."

According to Wikipedia guidelines, these sources (from websites such as SportBible.com, TheFootballLovers.com, and TheTopTens.com, would not be deemed reliable or reputable journalistic sources; moreover, some of them are secondary sources citing other more reliable ones, for which I have so far been able to find primary sources, however. I have therefore tried to find more reliable sources that corroborate this statement (something with which I agree, I might add), and implored said user to do so as well, but have so far been unsuccessful unfortunately. I have found more reliable sources that instead described Vidić as being one of the best defenders of his generation and in the history of the Premier League, so I modified the content in the lead to include the following statement and sources, namely that he:

"is considered as one of the greatest defenders in the history of the Premier League, as well as one of the best defenders of his generation."

However, my edits have been repeatedly reverted, even when I, and other users, such as PeeJay, have reverted these back explaining why the original sources were flawed. The other user disagrees, and believes that they are in fact acceptable sources. I would like to bring an end to this once and for all, and resolve it and come to a consesus so as to avoid similar conflicts and issues in the future, so I please ask for your input on this. Thank you,

Messirulez Messirulez (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I would like to say that I respect the above wikipedia user for their agreeablilty with the statement in question. They too have an understanding of the difficulty finding sources to support it. I believe this may be due to the article subject being a defender. Sadly, such sources relating to forwards and midfielders are abundant, however defenders once again get left in the dark. This is especially true when trying to find a reputable source. I do however strongly believe that SPORTbible is a good, verifiable, and reputable source to use in this instance. They are used as a source of information source by millions of people. To provide more context, they are followed by 2 million users on X (formerly known as twitter), 7 million people on Instagram, and 13 million people on facebook. They are followed by this many people across these platforms partly because they are indeed a trusted source. In the new age of technology, many archaic sources of information (although labelled as reputable through their long tenures on top of the news world) are being replaced by sources such as SPORTbible, which is predominantly online. In this case, with an unrefuted statement in question, I believe this source is more than valid as a support.

TheTopTens is another source which was provided. This is a site which is followed by many football fans. The source in question took a poll with over 11,000 votes.

Some of the other sources reference another poll conducted by the very reputable skysports which had over 20,000 votes.

I would like to reiterate that articles on the GOAT football defenders are almost non-existant. Another thing to note is that if he was even just a top 5 greatest defender in Premier league history (which he undoubtedly is with his accolades) he would by default be one of the greatest in the sport of all time. Consider the fact that the Premier League has been the pinnacle of football (soccer) for many decades. He is one of the only defenders to win the Player of the year award, and the only one to ever do so twice. Spirit Fox99 (talk) 16:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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