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Name of the article / Name of the party

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The correct title is "Nepal Workers' and Peasants' Party", not "Nepal Workers Peasants Party", right? Everyking (talk) 11:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a single printed document signed 'Nepal Workers' and Peasants' Party'? I know this is not grammatically correct English, but it mirrors real life usage of the party name. The party name in Nepali is 'Majdur Kisan Party', not 'Majdurharu ra Kisanharuko Party'. Its not possesive, it is not the party that belongs to the workers and peasants, rather worker-peasant denotes its political class orientation.--Soman (talk) 16:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I checked the Parliament link included in the article, and it gave the name as Nepal Workers' & Peasants' Party. However, if the current title is what the party actually calls itself, let's keep this title. Everyking (talk) 21:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia policy would indicate leaving the article with the most commonly used name, but mentioning the official name within the introduction, and the information box, and any 'History' section. The "Parliament link" appears to be defunct. It would be good to find some current/archived links for this matter. —DIV (1.144.106.44 (talk) 02:25, 23 June 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Nepal Majdoor Kisan Party?

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There is a redirect from this title, and the section on "Presence in various provinces" uses it, but it is not mentioned as an alternative or previous title of the party. Please will someone with sources fix this. Thanks. PamD 21:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is the Nepali name of this party, hence the redirect! Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

juche hoax

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I removed the mention of Juche as the party ideology. Going through the references presented, there is little to suggest that the party would have replaced Marxism-Leninism as the ideological foundation of the party.

  • Here we have an article from 2020 https://kathmandupost.com/12/2020/01/17/in-this-nepali-city-the-north-korean-dream-is-alive-and-thriving , that mentions "And behind Bijukchhe is a radical ideology imported from a hermit state in a peninsula thousands of kilometres away--juche" - it's well possible that the article author had been influenced by the Wikipedia article
  • "In his nearly 30 years ruling over Bhaktapur Municipality, Bijukchhe has adapted juche to the Nepali context", this is more an interpretation from the journalist side of comparison between Bijukchhe and NK, than a commentary on the ideological development of the party
  • The article, quoting Maharjan, also talks about NMKP as a communist party.
  • "Bijukchhe has gotten a lot of press over the years for his admiration of North Korea’s Great Helmsman, which is probably why he is quick to downplay the direct influence of juche. We have learned from everywhere, he says."
  • "In his office, Bijukchhe has the same portraits that used to hang on the walls of Nepal’s Maoist party--Marx, Engels, Lenin, Mao and Stalin. But Bijukchhe has two more portraits--Kim Il-sung and his son, Kim Jong-il." - well, portraits of Kim Il-Sung could found in a lot of other communist party offices around the world.
  • "“Kim Il-sung is one of the great teachers for Nepal together with Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro, Rosa Luxembourg to learn communism lessons,” he too had told Nepali Times in 2016. “The juche idea is a directional ideology of our party, we read and study a lot of literature from North Korea.”" - it's one source of inspiration, not the exclusive ideological line. And by no means replacing ML. The quote is from In http://archive.nepalitimes.com/article/nation/City-of-devotees-devotes-itself-to-development,3009 , from 2016 but has mixed up Ramesh and and Prem Suwal

On other hand, we have

  • https://ekantipur.com/ampnews/2014-04-04/386845.html?is_ifooter=1 " मार्क्सवाद, लेनिनवाद र माओवादलाई अन्य कम्युनिष्ट पार्टीले अवसरवादको रुपमा दुरुपयोग गरेको भनी उनी अरुको आलोचना पनि गर्छन्"
  • https://bhaktapurmun.gov.np/sites/bhaktapurmun.gov.np/files/documents/54%20khwopa%20pau_0.pdf page 3 explicitly talks about ML and Mao Zedong Thought as the ideological path of the party
  • https://bhaktapurmun.gov.np/sites/bhaktapurmun.gov.np/files/documents/BHAKTAPUR-291_0.pdf pp. 5-7, also places NMKP in the fold of the communist movement
  • https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=331572072303170&set=a.227366229390422 , which appears to be the official NMKP account, has this photo, dated 2021 which Rohit posing with banner stating "Long Live Marxism-Leninism and Mao Zedong Though!", with portraits of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao.
  • https://onlinemajdoor.com/?p=68169 - "The CPC received brilliant and extraordinary leadership of Chairman Mao Tse-Tung and gave timely birth to Mao Tse-Tung thought, developed while applying the universal truths of Marxism-Leninism to the practical situation of the Chinese revolution and construction."
  • https://onlinemajdoor.com/?p=13250 - "Dear Comrades, this year we are marking the 200th Birthday of the Great Teacher of the World Proletariat Karl Marx with various activities throughout the year up to the 5th May 2019. In Nepal, commemorating Marx is to fight against Revisionism today. We, as the young fighters have to wage untiring and un-admitting fights against the green serpents inside the green grasses. We are obliged to fight against the proxy communists to defend the Communist movement. We are to fight against the red flag holders intended to downfall the red flags of Revolution. We are to strike against the pro-imperialist renegades under the guise of ‘Red and Communists’. And its actually is the pleasure hour that we have two young fighters among us as our dear comrades. Mao Tse Tung had defined the young people as ‘the morning sun’ who own the World more than any other people. And so we are happy to welcome two of the bright morning suns here among Nepali young suns. Young revolutionary standing together can beat any reactionary and proxy powers in the world as Lenin did, as Mao did, as Ho Chi Minh did, as Kim Il Sung did, as Fidel and Che did in their days." --Soman (talk) 14:12, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I came across a Korean article that quotes them as directly calling themselves followers of Juche
“South Korea was under the influence of the US and Japanese ruling class, just as Nepal could not escape the influence of the ruling power in India. There was a consensus on the reality faced by Korea and Nepal, and Comrade Kim Il-sung's Juche idea is a valid vision for Nepal, which aspires to achieve economic and political independence from India.” President of he party, Bijukche.
https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/036/0000036359?sid=104
This seems to direct admission that they are following Juche. ParentiParrot (talk) 05:49, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since there's no objection to this, I will be readding Juche to the ideology box. ParentiParrot (talk) 23:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Westerners often think they know everything about everything but can't figure out that a political party can have both Juche and Communism as it's political philosophy lmfaooo. Comrade Rohit is a strong believer of Juche. It is not only 'recent years' that the party has embraced Juche as it's ideology, नेमकिपा is a Juche and communist party since it's founding. Tourists from every country has to pay certain fees to enter the Bhaktapur Durbar Square, a UNESCO world heritage site but North Korean tourist are exempt from paying fees. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.186.197.74 (talk) 12:59, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]