Talk:Ng On-yee/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 22:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi BennyOnTheLoose, I will take up this review. I'll read through this and leave some in-depth comments later. 🇪🇵🇮🇨🇬🇪🇳🇮🇺🇸 (talk) 22:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Writing and coverage

Lead:

• The first paragraph is a little weird, diving right into Ng's life and career after the first sentence. Or maybe you can separate the life and the career. Just a suggestion, though, nothing really has to be done.

• I've had a go at this, I think it's a bit better now.

Early life:

• She grew up in Hong Kong's then-working-class district Sham Shui Po - this sounds strange, probably because of the phrase "then-working-class". It sounds like too many things are being crammed into this one sentence. I was thinking something like this: "She grew up in Hong Kong, within the working-class district of Sham Shui Po".

•  Done

• and began learning to play snooker at the age of 13 in the snooker hall in which her father worked - probably should be split into another sentence

•  Done

• Ng left school at 17 to concentrate on her snooker skills but in 2015 she returned to college to study for an Advanced Diploma in accounting - If Ng "returned" to college, was she already in college when she dropped out?

  See response to the next point.

• Also, is there any detail about what college she went to, and whether she got the diploma yet?

  There is some inconsistency in dates between the two sources, and whether it was an "Advanced" or "Higher" diploma. (Unless she returned to do the Advanced Diploma in 2017 after completing the Higher diploma in 2016, but that would be beyond what the sources state.) I've rewritten preferring the hk.on.cc source (via Google translate) as that is backed up with pictures.

  Sounds good. 🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨 🇬 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇺 🇸 (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Career

• Leading 4–1, Ng was summoned to a drug test - any particular reason?

• The Source (Indo-Asian News Service (India)) does not mention a reason, but says it was unscheduled: "...despite an interruption when she was called for a dope test. When asked whether the unscheduled stoppage had disturbed her..."

• I see. 🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨 🇬 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇺 🇸 (talk)

• Ng was omitted from the Hong Kong squad for the 2009 East Asian Games that were held in Hong Kong soon after her victory in the IBSF World Championship because she was unable to attend the team training camp - I'd put a few commas here. I would optionally suggest rephrasing to something like: "...2009 East Asian Games, which were held in Hong Kong soon after her victory in the IBSF World Championship, because..."

•  Done

• she also won a bronze medal for reaching the semi-finals in the six-red singles competition - "She" must be capitalized because this is a new sentence.

•  Done

• Generally, do you think there should be red links for competitors who don't yet have articles (e.g. Ramona Belmont, Aakanksha Singh, Keerath Bhandaal? You have red links for some but not all of these other competitors.

• I've delinked the two that were in red, as I haven't seen evidence that they would meet WP:GNG.

• A clearance of 33 - is there a link for "Clearance"?

•  Done

• the tournament's first all-Asian - first one with all Asian players?

• Yes - I've reworked this. The intended point is that it was the first women's world snooker championship final where both players were from Asia. May need further revision.

• Her prize money was £5,000, more than four times the amount awarded to the previous year's winner. - interesting (nothing has to be done here, just that i laughed at this)
• Despite having low expectations at the start of the Women's World Snooker Championship at St. Paul's Bay, Malta, because she felt unwell and under pressure, and was suffering from loss of form,[80] Ng successfully defended her title without conceding a frame.[81] - this is arranged strangely, and could possibly be split into two sentences, because the main point of the sentence - Ng successfully defending her title - isn't reached till the end.

• Reworded, hopefully for the better.

• number one - in the lead, this is hyphenated, but in the body it is not.

•  Done De-hypehenated in lead.

• but these stages postponed due to the coronavirus pandemic. - is this supposed to be "these stages were postponed"?

•  Done (also removed repetition of stages)

Honours and awards

• Bronze Bauhinia Star - what is this?

• Expanded on this, let me know what you think.

• Looks good. 🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨 🇬 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇺 🇸 (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@BennyOnTheLoose I will tackle the sources later. 🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨 🇬 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇺 🇸 (talk) 15:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨 🇬 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇺 🇸 Many thanks for taking on the review and for the improvements identified so far. I've replied to some points above, and should be able to address the rest soon. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Sources/notes

@BennyOnTheLoose: More comments. 🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨 🇬 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇺 🇸 (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

• Ref 2 - is it supposed to be "Hong Kong Economic Journal" instead of "Journa"? Also, is the website parameter needed?

 Done Yes, it is. Amended.

• Some of the references are inconsistent, e.g. 7 and 29 contain plain syntax, while others are formatted as templates. Some of the references are just a plain link and text with an archive link.

 Done - let me know about any I've missed.

• Also check to see that all web cites have publishers or website data. E.g. ref 44

 Done - let me know about any I've missed.

• Is Express & Star (Wolverhampton, England) the actual newspaper name, or is it a newspaper in Wolverhampton, England, titled Express & Star?

 Done - It's Express and Star. Amended.

POV

Nothing of concern here.

Images & copyright

Seems to be fine.

Overall

This article seems to meet the GA requirements. Congratulations. 🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨 🇬 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇺 🇸 (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)