Talk:Nigra

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Nigra[edit]

Nigra is about as offensive as Negro. 70.228.67.182 (talk) 20:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why was the bit about it being derogatory removed? Anyone who's spent any time on 4chan, or many other parts of the internet, would know it's derogatory. It's just not as common as other terms. Mr.Hotkeys 20:44, 14 March 2007 (UT How is this word pronounced? Is the 'i' pronounced like the 'i' in nigger or the 'e' in negro? I always thought it was the first, but the only time I've ever actually heard it used in real speech the individual said it like "neegra"... 71.120.201.39 15:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I say "Nigra" with a regular I. As in "I am an nigra"

Bullshit it's derogatory. Shows why a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

It's a way of calling your backup in Habbo (/b/lackup) without alerting the mods through racist language (Which is filtered to bobba and gives them a headsup as to what you are doing). Emolotricity 18:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

lol[edit]

Actually, as anonymous uses it, it isn't derogatory. And habbo stopped being raided a long time ago.

anon seconds this notion. it's not racist/derogatory. even suggesting it is is racist against the internets. lurk moar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.221.181 (talk) 05:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

holy shit. you fag's, you aren't anon's here. stop spouting memes in places that ins't a *chan. - signed by a black person —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.193.94 (talk) 05:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Learn to use apostrophes. -signed by a white person —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.96.112 (talk) 17:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you think someone using a language other then your own is offensive, you need more education. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.102.178 (talk) 20:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nigra[edit]

Is possibly the LEAST offensive term Anonymous uses. It's almost a term of endearment. The Captain Returns (talk) 05:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nigga is a term of endearment, but you don't hear people saying it on cable TV (maybe with the exception of the Boondocks). 76.253.139.53 (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You don't watch BET much, do you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.220.197 (talk) 10:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Almost Endearment?[edit]

I thought it WAS the term of endearment. Nigra being the best, then nigga, then nigger, coon, etc. being the worst.

Or as a funny animal might say: "I'm not a coon; I'm a Procyon-American." --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 23:17, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

news[edit]

Members conducted the Great Habbo Raid of ’06 and the Great Habbo Raid of ’07 on the Habbo Hotel Web site. Habbo Hotel is a social networking site for teenagers where users create a cartoon avatar to represent themselves and roam through the virtual world and chat with others.
The Anonymous members all adopted the same avatar of the black man in a suit and blocked access to the pool area of the hotel, shouting at others, “Pool’s Closed due to AIDS.” The swarm of activity caused the site’s servers to crash.
“We all create characters who are black, afro and a business suit cause we feel like it,” a member e-mailed. “No one knows why we do it but we do.”
All the e-mails insisted the character, known as “Nigra Jim,” is not intended to be racist, just an inside joke.

—http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/Net_users_insist_its_joke.html

The point is on the last bit, “Nigra Jim,” William Ortiz (talk) 09:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recist articles should be removed[edit]

This isn't a real word, and no usage has been proven. Article recommended for speedy deletion. Mwahcysl (talk) 20:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you meant "Racist"? In any case, only articles on topics which are inappropriate for an encyclopedia should be deleted rather than merged and/or improved. Wikipedia does not censor topics -- "no censorship" is one of the guiding principles here. If the language of an article is itself racist, then it fails the NPOV standard... but again the solution is to improve the article, not delete it. An article about racism, including articles about racist language (e.g. the N-word) or racist activities (e.g. lynching) or organisations (e.g. the Ku Klux Klan) is completely appropriate to Wikipedia's mission, so long as those articles are not promoting racist language, behaviour or organisations. Acknowledging that racism exists is not racist; denying it does, is.

I do actually have a reference for usage of the word "nigra" in its derogatory meaning: [http://www.amazon.com/Alas-Babylon-Perennial-Classics-Frank/dp/0060931396 Alas, Babylon], a book written in the 1950s in which at least one character used "nigra" as a well-intentioned but problematic alternative to the N-word. There may be other print sources from the 50s (or earlier or later) which are not referenced in easily-found online sources at present. The fact that the term has re-emerged in a parodic and/or reclaimed manner online in the internet era suggests that awareness of it may have been passed down orally within African-American communities (it's also possible it's a coincidence, so good luck if anyone chooses to try to hunt up sources for that). I am not comfortable with adding the derogatory-term-for-Americans-of-African-descent meaning back into the article at present because I don't have a copy of the book handy. Ideally a fair-use quotation or two and/or a paraphrase, and a description of the context and usage, should be added to the article based on its appearance in at least that book. It's also possible that it was at least in part a regional dialect term, not used in all parts of the United States, and this may have limited its appearance in print during the time period when it was originally used. For now, I think I'll tag the article as needing help from someone with more expertise in the subject area(s). If no one else steps up within a month or two, I'll get a copy from the library, consult some friends with more knowledge of relevant history & sociolinguistics, and see what I can manage. Makingyouhungry (talk) 14:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed[edit]

There we go, lots of stuff from animals, plants, place names, people, and more have nigra in it. Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 23:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nigger[edit]

There isn't a single reference to the Nigger article in this disambig, despite that article's reference to this one. Is there a reason beyond absentmindedness? Aar ► 00:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is now a link to the above-referenced article -- sort of. It goes to the N-word article which itself links there. I have no problem with (and would actually appreciate it if) another editor adding a more direct link; even typing the required word and even in this context makes me uncomfortable. Sorry for the inconvenience. Having the new link go directly to the #Homophones section might be a good idea? Makingyouhungry (talk) 16:13, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Negro - Nigra - Nigger[edit]

From what it says on the N____r article, as well as in the edit history here, there are two different and possibly co-existing meanings for the word nigra as used to refer to black people in the United States. The 'variant pronunciation' meaning is referenced in the N____r article under #Etymology and history section, with a claim that former US President Lyndon Johnson used that pronunciation; I imagine that shouldn't be impossible to cite a reliable audio or video reference for, but there isn't currently such a reference supplied in the other article.

As stated above under the "Recist [sic]" heading, I'm aware of at least one print reference to the other usage, the one which is distinct from both negro and n____r. While I think the article would be better served by having someone more knowledgeable (I am neither Southern, African-American, a historian nor a linguist, though I am of mixed race and have a hobbyist interest in liguistics) address these meanings and their documentation, if enough time goes by I will do my best with a library copy of the one source I know to exist, and maybe try hunting through old news segments available on YouTube for the Johnson example.

Obviously, at the moment both definitions lack proper source citations; I put them back in with a good-faith belief that the sources exist (and even good ideas as to where at least one source for each can be found) and would appreciate it if other editors allowed a reasonable amount of time before reverting them due to the lack of citations. Makingyouhungry (talk) 16:13, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase in the article - "to 'politely' speak of black people in non-racist company" is very close to the truth which this article attempts to convey. I experienced this word's usage this way in the Southern U.S. as a child in the 1950s and '60s. Although racist in concept it is a subtle word, in its use attempting to convey a lack of overt cruelty or inhumanity on the part of the speaker. The article seems, then, to be balanced. Sourcing will be difficult. Mydogtrouble (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]