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Did you know... that the Northern Ireland subsidy is greater than the United Kingdom's annual net expenditure on the European Union before Brexit?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Northern Ireland subsidy is greater than the United Kingdom's annual net expenditure on the European Union was before Brexit? Source: Estimates of UK net subsidy of EU in 2019 was 8.9 billion[1]; estimate of the Northern Ireland subsidy is 10 billion[2]; comparison made in this opinion piece[3]

Reviewed: Valery Varfolomeyev

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 23:13, 22 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article was created on 22 April, is long enough, appears neutral, cites sources inline, no apparent copyvio. Hook is interesting and meets requirements, its verification requires comparing two sources and draws on a third but this seems okay. QPQ done. Whizz40 (talk) 21:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Compare as % of UK GDP[edit]

Buidhe. A very interesting article this, and never realized what the numbers were. For calibration, would it be possible to see what % the 10 billion is of the UK annual deficit (before the virus obviously), and as % of total UK GDP (I think the deficit is circa 0.3% of GDP), and as % of Irish GNI* (I think it is circa 5% of Irish GNI*, which is about Euro 210bn). That would additionally clarify that NI is not a major drag for the UK (although, still a drag), but a material drag for Ireland. Just a thought! Britishfinance (talk) 21:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you like the article! I think that the above calculations are interesting but I can't find such a comparison in any sources so I would be worried about WP:UNDUE. (t · c) buidhe 21:19, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, that is a pity, and to ensure it was always apples-to-apples, one would have prefered to have those sources provide those benchmarks (sometimes these calculations can differ materially depending on the assumptions made). Regardless, a very interesting piece of information, and well presented. Britishfinance (talk) 21:22, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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deficit[edit]

So I got into a back and forth with a guy on Quora who kept insisting that Northern Ireland's annual deficit is much less than an average of 10 billion pounds a year. So I made a deal with him - I told him that if he could cite some sources disputing this figure I'd run them by the editors of this article. He came up with this [4] this [5] and this [6].

I'm not really into this one way or the other so I'll let editors here examine these sources. Just keeping my word.Jonathan f1 (talk) 22:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]