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Former good article nomineeNorwich and Peterborough Building Society was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
May 9, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed

GA failed

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This is a quick fail due to the sources criteria. I have not given it a full review. To get passed the "quick-fail" criteria the References section needs to be improved. As it stands now it appears there is only one true reference to sources (#1) while the others seem to be more of a footnote explanation. Please see WP:CITE and Wikipedia:Verifiability for what references in a good article would look like. The references in the article seem to be from the company, which simply do not count for reliability. On a side note, it would be good to get a picture of a branch to improve the astetics of the article. Great start, just needs some more work to get to GA. Aboutmovies 21:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Location

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Why is it necessary to have the full postal address for the HQ location? The City/Country seems to be the general norm on most company infoboxes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.228.253 (talk) 13:44, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Only since you've gone around and changed them all. Please see the example given at Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Society#Non-profit organisations. 163.167.129.124 15:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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With respect, as I reverted and requested discussion on the talk page first, it was somewhat rude of you to re-revert and make the same request. Regardless, straight from WP:NONFREE:

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As you can see, I've crossed out 3a and 8 - this image in this article most certainly does not count as minimal usage, nor is it significant to this article. Therefore it cannot be used under the fair-use policy here, and must be removed. Before replacing, please explain how exactly you feel that it does meet the criteria for fair-use. TheIslander 11:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, this dispute was resolved on the talk page of Ryan Postlethwaite, under the heading 3RR Problem. TheIslander 20:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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