Talk:Nottingham Forest F.C./Archive 1
Terrible
[edit]This article is badly written and full of personal opinion. If you want to find out about this football club, use it's official website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.68.124 (talk) 13:40, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Style tag
[edit]I agree with --rbrwr and others that the article is well written and contains a wealth of information. However the style is innapropriate for Wiki. There are hardly any in-line citations, many "weasel" words and phrases (eg "Forest fans dislike" or "Many of today's footballing rules" or "-one could have predicted"), but most importantly the style is like that of a novel, and in particular the section on the history of the club. So, while it is an exciting and very well written article in my opinion, the style is therefore not suitable for an encyclopedia which is intended for the research of a general audience. More information on the informal term "weasel words" used on wiki can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words Some guidance on style considered appropriate can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_writing_better_articles#Information_style_and_tone Hope those help.
LookingGlass (talk) 08:29, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Nice work
[edit]Hello 217.81.147.194, nice start to the article! Please note that you don't need to use underscores inside links, and it's considered bad to link back to the article itself within the article. --rbrwr
Cleanup
[edit]This article is a mess - there are many sections on the club's history that overlap, the squad needs converting to use the standard {{Football squad player}} template, and the long table of stats at the end is not necessary (IMHO) and needs to be formatted correctly. Qwghlm 13:43, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- After Oldelpaso (talk · contribs) did some work on cleaning up the article, I finished off the job and have removed the notice. Qwghlm 00:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Shirt Donation?
[edit]I thought it was Arsenal that Forest donated kit to rather than Liverpool? (Early History) See
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=The+Club&article=344300&Title=Kit+Design
Liverpool FC not formed until 1892. Need confirmation that Forest provided kit to Liverpool also Aorangi 23:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Steve McDonald
[edit]I'm confused - is Steve McDonald (the character) a Forest fan in the show or is Simon Gregson (the actor) the (un)fortunate one?
Notts Forest
[edit]why don't forrest fans like it being called notts forest? Is it because of Notts County?
Forest fans don't like being called Notts Forest because it is incorrect, Notts is an abreviation for Nottinghamshire, not Nottingham. Why Notts County are so called is something I've never found a proper answer for. It's not like Derby County get call Derbs County or Leceicster City, Leics City. Bevo74 06:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- If you call Forest 'Notts Forest', you should also call teams 'South Yorkshire Wednesday', 'Suffolk Town', 'Lancashire Wanderers' and so on. Ericatom 11:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Notts County are the county team, Nottingham Forest are the city team, it's as simple as that, It's just that the city has it's own county, unlike Manchester for example. People that refer to forest as 'notts' are ignorant and lazy, or even stupid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spunky73uk (talk • contribs) 14:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.190.10.139 (talk) 12:49, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Calderwood Appointment
[edit]I am not comfortable with the "some" and "many" comments on the recent appointment of Calderwood as manager. There seems to be a lot of personal opinion in that statement and perhaps the author is that "some" and "many"? I believe the appointment piece should be based on fact right at the moment.
- I don't really understand what does mean that Calderwood is the 182th manager in 1 yearS... aren't there a bit of years left?
Trivia
[edit]Nottingham Forest have broken more records than any other club in England
Is there evidence for this?
SteveO 11:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
To me it seems a meaningless statement, I'm sure most clubs can point to obscure 'records' that they hold, like most 3-3 draws in a season, not that the Forest stuff is, but most records seems rather strange. Bevo74 07:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Breaking more records than any other team is probably unprovable. I've re-worded the piece. SteveO 17:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
How did Forest win the Conference play-offs in 2018?
Fixtures
[edit]Greetings Forest Fans and Wikipedians! I put together a fixture list for the new season that I thought might be useful to have. If it's too large or misplaced in the article, please move it or resize it at will. However, I did put a little work into it, so I'd appreciate it if it stayed unless it's very necessary to remove it. --Bveale 02:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have removed the fixture list due to copyright concerns. The Football League hold the copyright to fixture lists, and charge a fee for the right to publish them. As webmasters of many fansites can testify, the Football League enforce this with vigour. In any case, it is incompatible with the GFDL. However, IIRC fixtures from past seasons are not subject to copyright as they are historical facts. It can be confusing, and copyright law can be an ass, but unfortunately there's little we can do about it. Oldelpaso 17:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, if those are the rules, so be it. It did turn out a little monstrous anyway. No offense taken, as its much more important to be within the law (though I'm actually an American, not that it would matter here). I'll try and figure out other ways to contribute, and besides, I got a great tutorial on making tables!--Bveale 22:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Capacities
[edit]The article says the Main Stand seats more than 50,000 - I'll assume this is a typo and remove the first zero. Ericatom 11:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
May 2005 relegation
[edit]The article says: "Their relegation to this league in May 2005 made them the first European Cup winners ever to later play outside their country's top two divisions." But the italian team S.S.C. Napoli, winner of the UEFA Cup 1988/89, was relegated in Serie C1 (Italian third division) in season 2004/2005. Icarus83 22:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- They didn't win the European Cup, though..... ChrisTheDude 14:42, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't notice that we were talking about UEFA Champions League Cup (I didn't click over the link...), I intended a generic international Cup organized by UEFA, and I was wrong. It's ok then. Greetings. Icarus83 15:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Stadium capacity
[edit]The City Ground is the 6th largest football stadium outside the Premiership, behind East Midland rivals Derby County and Leicester City, Leeds United, Southampton and Sheffield Wednesday.
Coventry's Ricoh arena is 32,500 i believe so this would make the city ground the 7th largest? I know it's picky but i thought I'd point it out however i haven't changed it as I'm not 100% sure of the size of Coventry's new ground.
Sunderland?? It holds 48,000. The City Ground is clearly not the 6th largest. Delete?
Celebrity supporters
[edit]David Frost is a Forest supporter is he not? Raymond Palmer 11:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- I know he had trials at Forest but I don't know if he's a fan. Ericatom 18:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Some of the fans on that list seem very dubious. A person who doesn't actually exist, a Prince William lookalike and Phil Scolari... SteveO 21:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Phil Scolari has actually said himself he is a fan of Nottingham Forest, and that Brian Clough is one of his greatest inspirations to be a manager. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.40 (talk)
- I've heard Scolari say he was an admirer of Clough's team. It doesn't make him a genuine fan, though. Do you have a source? SteveO 17:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Here is a link from THE GUARDIAN confirming his support : [1]
- Isn't Nottingham Ebby from Germany who attends every match worth a few lines?-Lemmy- 21:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't Ebby live in Nottingham now ? Simon Q 13:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Ebby has been living in nottinghamshire with his wife for several years now, it is a common misconception(from those that know of him vaguely rather than those who have met him) that he still travels from germany every week.82.9.225.92 15:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
- In a German documentation (4-5 years old) he was shown living in Duisburg, Germany, and said he lives in England about 100 days a year. As far I can recall...-Lemmy- (talk) 09:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
This section has now been deleted - can anyone explain why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.111.166.83 (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Jason Statham is not a Red. This is a common misconception which he has stated is untrue.
"And speaking of suppressed emotions and holding them in, we wanted to ask you about life as an Nottingham Forest fan. Do you let your emotions out often as a Forest fan? I'm not a Forest fan.
You're not a Forest fan? No, where'd you read that?"
http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1718 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.25.155 (talk) 21:21, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- This is all irrelevant, as there shouldn't be a list of "famous" fanse. As this peer review for the Aston Villa article (which has reached WP:FA status) notes, "A celebrity's support for [the club] has no effect upon the club, if a person's support for [the club] is truly notable it should be included in their article, not [the club]'s". Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 15:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Cleanup
[edit]I've just spent quite a bit of time cleaning this article up, but there is still quite a bit to do. Specifically the History section is maybe still too long and should be cut by about a 1,000 words perhaps. There is now a separate article on the club's history which currently contains the history section as it was before I started cleaning up the article. Bigmike 01:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- What the history article needs is a near total re-write, without the fan punditry and even an attempt at citing some of its content. It needs to be more neutral and verify its facts. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 15:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Rewrite
[edit]This seems more like a fans' eye view of Forest rather than a factual description of the club and its history. The club's official website has its own history section, and is much better (tidier and more informative) than this Wikipedia entry. I agree. There is too much opinion, and too little fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.66.226.45 (talk) 20:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
History section
[edit]The history section of this article is atrocious. Right now it appears to just be a fan's-eye-view of their history arbitrarily using coaching eras as team eras. This needs to be cleaned up pretty heavily. JHMM13(Disc) 14:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well volunteered. - Dudesleeper · Talk 14:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I did actually clean it up quite substantially earlier this year (see the version as I left it), and moved the original history section into a separate History of Nottingham Forest F.C. However User:Martinwas inexplicably reverted the article a month or so later to the original (current) format.....the last edit prior to that being this one. There's no way I'm gonna bother doing it again, but I would suggest a gradual cleanup rather than all in one go like I did. Bigmike 00:13, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Matthew Hartmann
[edit]He was listed as 12 in the squad list. He is not listed on the club website as having a squad number, but he in the youth side. Does anybody have any source for him having a squad number? Bevo74 19:36, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Notable Players
[edit]What makes a player notable, to me a player who is did not play many games/achieve success with Forest is not notable, even if they won caps and trophies elsewhere.eg Ben Olsen and Ian Wright. Although to be honest is not this whole section rather POV? Bevo74 (talk) 12:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
It seems Dudesleeper answered this. Bevo74 (talk) 16:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm all for a List of Nottingham Forest F.C. players article, with criterion-controlled entry, but this one resembled a fans' favourites list. - Dudesleeper Talk 18:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Jonny Heald? Hoar Cross F.C.?
[edit]Who are these things? Malpass93 (talk) 15:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism Bevo74 (talk) 19:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Forest's firsts
[edit]The article states that "Frank and Fred Forman were the first brothers to play for the same club, and indeed, became the first brothers to represent England in 1899. They also became the first brothers to both score in an International game - scoring in a game against Ireland."
Most of this statement is incorrect -
(a) Several players had appeared for the same club before the Formans, e.g. Charles Bambridge and his two brothers all played for Swifts F.C. in the late 1870s.
(b) The first brothers to play for England were Charles and William Clegg in 1872 & 1873 respectively; the first brothers to play for England in the same match were William and Herbert Rawson (March 6 1875).
(c) The first brothers to score for England in the same match were Charles and Arthur Bambridge (23 February 1884). - Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 13:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Neil Martin is credited here with being the first player to score 100 league goals in both Scotland and England, but I belive that Joe Baker actually achieved this earlier - Mundellian (talk) 23:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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tricky trees
[edit]If you put tricky trees into the wikipedia search engine the first result is Forest. I don't care one way or another but for an encyclopedia entry it is surely as important as "Forest" johnnybriggs (talk) 19:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Certainly my copy of Football Manager 2008 seems to think that "The Tricky Trees" is the standard nickname. I'd never heard it before I played the game though, I don't think it's in huge circulation among the general public. 82.163.43.10 (talk) 09:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
We have been nicknamed 'The Tricky Trees' for years, although the Media tend to favour simply 'Forest' now. It is still our nickname, and it should be included on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.219.38 (talk) 17:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
The Guardian has referred to Forest as the Tricky Trees towards the bottom of this [2] column. If this isn't considered to be a credible source and one which is outside of the Forest fanbase then I don't know what will. I have always considered 'Forest' to be an abbreviation of the club's name, rather than an actual nickname. Nottmlad (talk) 00:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I almost have tears of joy, I think this is the first time a wikipedia editor has believed me and reverted their edit. I lived in Nottingham in the 90's and it's almost certainly used in Brian Clough's biography. johnnybriggs (talk) 07:59, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Protect
[edit]This page is being over-run with over-enthusiastic Derby fans, and their irritating vandalism. Can we please protect or at least semi-protect this page, lest it get worse. Malpass93 (talk) 22:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Clean Up
[edit]I have begun to attempt to clean up this article. I have worked on the Rivalry and Stadium sections so far with the eventual hope of Featured Article status. I'm using the Everton FC and Aston Villa articles as models. Let's hope this is possible! Nottmlad (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC).
- Good luck with the work. Be sure to use a wide range of possible sources and take advantage of the peer review and Good article systems when you think that the article is ready (e.g. no obvious omissions and general issues). Reducing the stadium info to the most relevant points is a good start. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 11:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Good luck pal. I'm sure we can do it! Malpass93 (talk) 15:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Lead
[edit]I am going to have a go at re writing the lead of this article. It doesn't really summarise the article as far as I can see. The first paragraph is pretty good but most of the second paragraph seems unnecessary for the lead. Please let me know if there is anything that you think should or shouldn't be included. I am new to wikipedia so please feel free to let me know if you think I should be going about this in a different way! Thanks. Mah favourite (talk) 01:32, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- As there has been no reponse I've gone ahead and made some changes. I've realised now though that there is quite a lot to do in the body of the article especially with regards to sourcing so I am going to concentrate on that for the moment and then the lead can be sorted out afterwards. I am not criticising the work that others have done on this article, there is plenty of good content but there are definitely a few more points that could be covered as well as the obvious lack of sufficient sources. Mah favourite (talk) 02:03, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
hiiii you our right !!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.220.61.185 (talk) 12:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Just seen this ambitious comment that I wrote a while back. I got bored of wikipedia and so didn't really improve the article much. Sorry! Mah favourite (talk) 23:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Team Kits
[edit]I was just wondering how the new kit was made in Wikipedia style. The body is named "not" meaning it is personalised for Nottingham Forest, so how are new kits made? I am trying to make the past seasons kits as accurate as possible but if I new how the current kit was made it would be a great help. Thanks. Uni red (talk) 17:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Check this out. Template:Football kit. That outta lay things out for you. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 20:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- I tried looking at that before and I understand how to use the current patterns, but how do I make, for example, the body all from scratch? Like someone has managed to create a file for the German home shirt. How do I create that from scratch? Thanks again, Uni red (talk) 20:58, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Ah. I get you. I'll try researching it and leave a reply here for you. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Brilliant, thanks a lot. If you don't come up with anything let me know also. Another good example is the Juventus kit, so detailed and I've no idea how!! Cheers Uni red (talk) 21:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- You could attack this one of two ways. One way is to make the kit detail white and the background transparent, and overlay it onto a red background. That way, other kits can use it. Like this one: File:Kit body redbluesides2.png. Or, you could make it red with the white parts on it, and use that, a la: File:Kit body engaway08a.png. Hope this helps. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:16, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- But how has someone made for example that England away kit, on Wikipedia? Thats what I'd rather do, so as to make it personalised for Forest. Uni red (talk) 21:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- MS Paint based on a red kit background? Photoshop? Inkscape? It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:27, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Is that just how they're done then? I assumed there was a way of designing them in Wikipedia for some reason. I may give them a go then. Do you have a link for how to upload an image and use it as a kit? Sorry for the trouble Uni red (talk) 21:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- When you have finished, click me. Fill out the info on that form. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Is that just how they're done then? I assumed there was a way of designing them in Wikipedia for some reason. I may give them a go then. Do you have a link for how to upload an image and use it as a kit? Sorry for the trouble Uni red (talk) 21:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- MS Paint based on a red kit background? Photoshop? Inkscape? It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:27, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- But how has someone made for example that England away kit, on Wikipedia? Thats what I'd rather do, so as to make it personalised for Forest. Uni red (talk) 21:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- You could attack this one of two ways. One way is to make the kit detail white and the background transparent, and overlay it onto a red background. That way, other kits can use it. Like this one: File:Kit body redbluesides2.png. Or, you could make it red with the white parts on it, and use that, a la: File:Kit body engaway08a.png. Hope this helps. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:16, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Brilliant, thanks a lot. If you don't come up with anything let me know also. Another good example is the Juventus kit, so detailed and I've no idea how!! Cheers Uni red (talk) 21:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Ah. I get you. I'll try researching it and leave a reply here for you. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- I tried looking at that before and I understand how to use the current patterns, but how do I make, for example, the body all from scratch? Like someone has managed to create a file for the German home shirt. How do I create that from scratch? Thanks again, Uni red (talk) 20:58, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Lee Camp
[edit]I don't see what the problem is with putting the NI flag next to him instead of England's. He has made it clear that he wishes to represent Northern Ireland [3] and as WP:MOSFLAG says, "... if a sportsperson has represented a nation or has declared for a nation" 80.229.202.24 (talk) 10:10, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Expected departures
[edit]Can we please stop deleting Adebola, Tyson, Earnshaw, Wilson and Moussi from the list? Until we get actual sourced information saying that they have left (not that they will leave, remember WP:CRYSTAL), leave them in. Semi-protextion would be nice if any admins are knocking about. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 21:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Clean-up tag
[edit]From being a top-quality article, one of the best in the subject of football, this article has slowly become an incohesive, badly-written mess, with little in the way of references or wikification. It's Malpass93! (drop me a ___) 18:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
lionel messi
[edit]Someone add messi and ronaldo to the squad list, I dont really know what to do to fix it. So someone should fix it if they could. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.52.144 (talk) 21:20, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Squad table format
[edit]A discussion is being held here on the possibility of rolling out a new squad template. The new template, named {{football squad player2}}, differs from the standard squad layout in several ways:
- It features a sort function
- Comes in a single column format that can be understood by screen readers.
- Single column format ensures that low resolution browsers, including mobile devices, do not get part or all of the second column cut off.
- Single column format ensures less clutter, particularly at lower resolutions, for wide sections such as the Arsenal loan section.
- It gives nationality its own column; at present flags are featured in a blank, untitled column
- It complies with Wikipedia's guidance on flag usage.
- It leaves enough space to add images of current players, an example of which can be seen at Watford F.C#Current squad.
It is proposed that the new template be added to some of Wikipedia's most high-profile club articles, which might include Nottingham Forest F.C.. To give your thoughts, please read and contribute to the discussion at WikiProject Football.
Regards, Edinburgh Wanderer 19:42, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Player of the Year
[edit]Hmm, I don't know what it is but this list seems odd in places. I see that it is referenced to a match program, but is there anything else that supports some of the entries? Announcements in the Evening Post or similar, perhaps? I only ask because it seemed odd to me that Steve Sutton should have been the PotY for 1993. He played his last competitive game for Forest in 1991 and had been traded to Derby in early 1992, so how on Earth was he the 1993 player of the year? Pyrope 17:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I was the one who put that up. I've just checked the programme in question and it says exactly what I put up, however Sutton's move to Derby in '92 is also sourced, so it's an odd one. I had a quick Google News search but came up empty-handed, I will try the actual NEP site next. I will also individually cite each year, where possible. Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 19:15, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that you faithfully followed the source you had available. I'm really just questioning the reliability of that source as this is an extremely odd claim. Pyrope 20:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Just a little update - I stumbled-upon an online citation in the History section of the NFFC site, which at least solves the potential WP:V issue, however the information is the same (I suspect one was the basis for the other, although I'm not quite sure which as the article is undated). Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 12:22, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting, and confusing. Also, all the articles that you have used as citations so far for 2004 and earlier have the date of posting listed as 17 November 2004, which I presume is the date they were uploaded to the new site rather than the date they were written. As I can't see any other dates given in relation to their original publication I was wondering where you had managed to get that information from? Pyrope 15:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- The News archive pages give the dates as they should be - for example here's the actual date for Gareth Williams' 2002 award [4] which the article itself says is from the 17th November '04. This was also how I found the dates for the other awards. This seems to be a common theme - research into Wimbledon's move to Milton Keynes presented the same problems (at the time I assumed that was the date they were transferred from Wimbledon's site to mkdons.com). Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 17:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting, and confusing. Also, all the articles that you have used as citations so far for 2004 and earlier have the date of posting listed as 17 November 2004, which I presume is the date they were uploaded to the new site rather than the date they were written. As I can't see any other dates given in relation to their original publication I was wondering where you had managed to get that information from? Pyrope 15:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- Just a little update - I stumbled-upon an online citation in the History section of the NFFC site, which at least solves the potential WP:V issue, however the information is the same (I suspect one was the basis for the other, although I'm not quite sure which as the article is undated). Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 12:22, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that you faithfully followed the source you had available. I'm really just questioning the reliability of that source as this is an extremely odd claim. Pyrope 20:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Under 21's and Academy sections
[edit]The Under 21's and Academy sections of the article appear to incomplete or out of date. Unfortunately, Forest's website isn't up to date, making it hard to expand on. Anyone have a source for current players in the Under 21's and Academy? UncleTupelo1 (talk) 15:12, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Logo
[edit]Did Nottingham ever have another logo than that one?--SamWinchester000 (talk) 15:21, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Yep! Google it. UncleTupelo1 (talk) 03:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Logo
[edit]The logo here was out of date, so I've BOLDly put in the new one. I'm no expert at images though - can somebody skilled enough please create an SVG version of it to use here? Thanks. — sparklism hey! 15:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- My bandwidth finds your lossless compression offensive... Anyway, I vectorised the picture and uploaded it here. I would appreciate it if someone could double-check to make sure I've done everything properly. I've only uploaded pictures once before. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 06:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Squad Numbers
[edit]There seem to be a few errors in regard to the current players squad numbers. According to the official site de Vries and Lichaj have not been given squad numbers yet, and Cox is actually number 19 and Evtimov is 31. I have edited de Vries back to having no number, but I was wondering if there is some other source people are getting the numbers from, or are people just giving players the numbers they think they should have? Myke251 (talk) 12:13, 4 July 2013 (UTC).
A lot of numbers look to be changing this season. Cox, Lansbury, Derbyshire, Miller, Lascelles, etc.. So leaving all blank until confirmation seems a good idea. deathgripz 14:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Committee rather than directors [edit source | editbeta]If I'm not mistaken Forest were the last club in the league to be run by a committee rather than directors. It would be helpful to know how the club was run in those days. Was this a 'private members club' with the members voting for committee memebers? Some information on this would be appreciated. Also, when di they decide to change to a limited company, why did they do so, and what were the ultimate benefits? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.188.183.86 (talk) 11:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Davies Sacking
[edit]At the time of writing there has been no official announcement of whether Billy Davies has been sacked or not, so I'm changing it back. Mike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.58.222 (talk) 12:20, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
The club have announced his sacking via their website. A successor has not been appointed as of the time of writing, so I've put 'Position Vacant' in the manager field. Mike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.58.222 (talk) 12:36, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Stuart Pearce was appointed manager today, his contract starts - July 1st http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26867437 - can someone edit that into the page please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.115.144 (talk) 14:03, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Redirection from Nottingham Forest
[edit]I intended to look up Nottingham Forest, ie the once large forest near/around Nottingham. Instead I get directed to an article about a football club that has taken its name from the forest. Can anyone tell me where I can find an article about the actual forest? Thanks. 165.120.113.50 (talk) 15:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Protected edit request on 9 July 2016
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Please change the date of the current squad to "as of 9 July 2016, as Thomas Lam was signed by the club on 8 July but currently features on the squadlist on this page.
Charleydrgreen (talk) 11:17, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
- While the original source has not yet been updated to show the new player on the roster, other sources show the player on the roster. I've updated the date and the source. Thanks, Nakon 18:58, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Captain
[edit]I am pretty sure that Chris Cohen is the club captain. Yet media sources give other names and the match day captain seems to change regularly. Does anybody have a definite source? Red Jay (talk) 05:16, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Found this [5] backing Cohen Red Jay (talk) 06:12, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Not joining the League in 1888
[edit]I have read Forest chose not to join due to the fear of FA punishment, rather than not being selected. I will try to find my reference. Has anybody else got anything on this. Red Jay (talk) 09:28, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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