Talk:ORP Gryf (1936)

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Why did Gryf and Wicher remained on the Baltic Sea? What was the reason that saved some ships with Operation Peking while condemnig others to suicidal Operations Worek and Rurka? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 02:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gryf was the only large modern surface vessel to remain. Wicher was outdated and it was old the very moment it was launched, so it was decided that it was the least valuable and could be left as the support for Gryf. As to Gryf herself, the very purpose of Peking was to save the ships for one purpose: escorting convoys with war material for Poland, either through Gdynia or Constanza. At the same time Gryf was not exactly a destroyer, it was a minelayer and its main purpose was to... lay mines, you guessed it. It would be of little use in long-range convoy escort missions. Since the Polish surface fleet was what it was, the two tasks chosen for it were quite reasonable, I must say. If it was not for Łomidze's orders, the Operation Worek was highly likely to succeed BTW, as there was still little opposition.. Halibu tt 13:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tnx for the answer. Another question: what is Constanza? I never heard of such a port/place in Poland. Could you create stubs for Operation Worek, Operation Rurka and Operation Peking when you have some time? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 05:47, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Constanza is just my own rendering of the Romanian port of Constanţa. According to the Polish-Romanian alliance and staff talks, in case of a war, both countries promised to allow free shipment of war materiel through their ports. As a matter of fact it was initially thought of as a major Polish help for the Romanians in case of a war with USSR, as the Romanian shipment through the isthmus would be much harder than the Polish shipment through the straits and there was a risk that the Soviets would simply cut the Romanians out of the Mediterranean. Note that this alliance never expired and in fact the only Allied shipment that was prepared for Poland after September 1 was bound for Romania. It never eventually left the harbour, but this is a completely different story. As to the stubs - I'll see what I can do. Halibu tt 05:58, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Engines - HP?[edit]

Article says she has '8SD48' engines of 6,000 KM (4,413 KW) each

I am not familar with 'KM' as a measure of power; but 4,414 KW is around 6000 horse power so I presume the 'KM' == SHP; Shaft HP being the most common non-metric unit of engine power.

I think the unit of power should therefore be changed to HP or SHP.

GrantB 07:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KM is Polish for Koń Mechaniczny which is "Mechanical Horse" and is the same unit as HP/Horsepower. Mieciu K 17:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

B-class review[edit]

This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]